# Botticelli -- Round 12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 16, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545 "2008-05-16T13:17:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/41 "2008-05-16T16:01:45Z")

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HKF: I am younger than 50.

Ms. Porpentine: I am an actress.  
(Also, b/c half the fun is me learning things, please give me a little more on your connection. I’m not sure who Michael Collins is, other than that Irish guy they made a movie about (with Liam Neeson) a few years back.)  
**MC is** :[ul]  
[li] **not male** [/li][li] **not American** [/li][li] **is alive** [/li][li] **is not Eurpoean** [/li][li] **is an entertainer** [/li][li] **not best known for being a musician** [/li][li] **is younger than 50** [/li][li] **is an actress** [/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/42 "2008-05-16T16:06:40Z")

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The Michael Collins I meant was the third member of the Apollo 11 crew, the one who stayed circling the moon when Armstrong and Aldrin landed.

:smack: Also, I totally missed the fact that you were female. Thanks for answering the spirit of my question and not the letter.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/43 "2008-05-16T17:18:55Z")

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Are you a slapstick-type comedian turned musical star?

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/44 "2008-05-16T17:27:56Z")

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Did you have a stage show whose name was a take-off on a famous rapper?

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/45 "2008-05-16T17:41:00Z")

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Apropos to the Dope, are you a maker of pie?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/46 "2008-05-16T17:48:52Z")

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Are you a famous lesbian comic?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/47 "2008-05-16T18:44:53Z")

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glee, Kid A, and Darryl Lict: I do not know who you mean. You all get DQs.

Wargamer, I am not Margaret Cho.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/48 "2008-05-16T19:06:31Z")

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Did you invite people to spice up their lives?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/49 "2008-05-16T19:19:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Sternvogel]  
Did you invite people to spice up their lives?  
[/QUOTE]

No, and I don’t know who you mean. DQ for you!

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/50 "2008-05-16T19:26:34Z")

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[QUOTE=divemaster]  
No, and I don’t know who you mean. DQ for you!  
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[Melanie Chisholm, better known as Sporty Spice.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_Chisholm)

Are you Asian?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/51 "2008-05-16T19:31:21Z")

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Yes, I am Asian.  
**MC is** :[ul]  
[li] **not male** [/li][li] **not American** [/li][li] **is alive** [/li][li] **is not Eurpoean** [/li][li] **is an entertainer** [/li][li] **not best known for being a musician** [/li][li] **is younger than 50** [/li][li] **is an actress** [/li][li] **is Asian** [/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/52 "2008-05-16T19:45:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Fretful Porpentine]  
:smack: Also, I totally missed the fact that you were female. Thanks for answering the spirit of my question and not the letter.  
[/QUOTE]  
I don’t think anyone responded to this yet.

The indirect questions don’t have to match the criteria that have been determined i.e., doesn’t have to be a female. The game bogs down fast if the Indirect Questions are too restricted. This came up in some earlier games.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/53 "2008-05-16T19:51:12Z")

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I think her point was I could have pedantically said “no, I am not an actor” and thus been a bit misleading. (But today even actressess call themselves actors, and I’m not going to be pedantic in any event.)

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/54 "2008-05-16T20:04:17Z")

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[QUOTE=divemaster]  
I think her point was I could have pedantically said “no, I am not an actor” and thus been a bit misleading. (But today even actressess call themselves actors, and I’m not going to be pedantic in any event.)  
[/QUOTE]  
Ah, I see now. I didn’t realize it was in response to a DQ.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/55 "2008-05-16T20:09:36Z")

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[Michael Crawford](http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/1286:0/1/Michael_Crawford.htm) played a hopeless but lovable fool in the BBC TV series 'Some Mothers do 'ave ‘em’, then starred in ‘Barnum’ and ‘Phantom of the Opera’.

Are you involved in martial arts?

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/56 "2008-05-16T20:11:23Z")

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Are you a star on the Disney Channel?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/57 "2008-05-16T20:14:30Z")

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Were you the eponymous star of an Oscar nominated movie?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/58 "2008-05-16T20:15:08Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
[Michael Crawford](http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/1286:0/1/Michael_Crawford.htm) played a hopeless but lovable fool in the BBC TV series 'Some Mothers do 'ave ‘em’, then starred in ‘Barnum’ and ‘Phantom of the Opera’.

Are you involved in martial arts?  
[/QUOTE]

I have appeared in roles with some level of martial arts but I am not known as a martial artist.  
**MC is** :[ul]  
[li] **not male** [/li][li] **not American** [/li][li] **is alive** [/li][li] **is not Eurpoean** [/li][li] **is an entertainer** [/li][li] **not best known for being a musician** [/li][li] **is younger than 50** [/li][li] **is an actress** [/li][li] **is Asian** [/li][li] **not really considered a martial artist** [/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/59 "2008-05-16T20:18:25Z")

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[QUOTE=HongKongFooey]  
Are you a star on the Disney Channel?  
[/QUOTE]

No, I am not Millie (Mylie?) Cyrus.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-12/449545/60 "2008-05-16T20:19:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Freudian Slit]  
Were you the eponymous star of an Oscar nominated movie?  
[/QUOTE]

I came up with “Michael Clayton.” If that’s who you were going for, I’m not him.

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