# Botticelli, Round 15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [May 21, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101 "2008-05-21T14:32:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/161 "2008-06-02T05:07:20Z")
I was actually going for Johnny LaRue from SCTV (one of John Candy’s characters). But if Jack LaLanne smoked, I’ll defer. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/162 "2008-06-02T11:43:12Z")
Did you once make your living dancing around in your undies for Benny Hill? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/163 "2008-06-02T12:30:32Z")
Jon Lewis. DQ: 1979-1988? IQ: Are you a BBC TV producer who regularly collaborated with Douglas Adams? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/164 "2008-06-02T13:54:57Z")
[QUOTE=astorian] I was actually going for Johnny LaRue from SCTV (one of John Candy’s characters). But if Jack LaLanne smoked, I’ll defer. [/QUOTE] I was just guessing. Ask your DQ. I have no clue about the Benny Hill question, so ask a DQ for that, too. **Dead Cat** , you got me on the BBC question; ask a DQ. JL: - is not alive [omitted stuff in the middle] - is in a Hugo Award-winning novel or story - first appeared in 1958-98 inclusive - does not appear in a Nebula Award-winning novel or story - did not first appear 1958-78 inclusive - was not created by David Brin or Dan Simmons - did not first appear 1979-88 inclusive ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/165 "2008-06-02T14:30:37Z")
Were you first NFL player to reach 14,000 receiving yards? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/166 "2008-06-02T17:28:24Z")
[QUOTE=Kid\_A] Were you first NFL player to reach 14,000 receiving yards? [/QUOTE] Hmmmm. Dunno. Ask a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/167 "2008-06-02T18:15:02Z")
James Lofton Can I get a clarification on a previous DQ? “Has your character occurred in a Hugo or Nebula winning story or novel?” When you answered, was novel used in the strict sense as in talking specifically about the “Hugo Award for Best Novel” or in a generic sense that could refer to any of the Hugo awards (i.e. novella, novellette, short story, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/168 "2008-06-02T18:51:41Z")
The question was about a “story or novel,” which to me covers just about any written work, and I answered it accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/169 "2008-06-02T18:54:08Z")
Did your character appear in a book which won the “Hugo Award for Best Novel”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/170 "2008-06-02T20:24:03Z")
[QUOTE=Kid\_A] Did your character appear in a book which won the “Hugo Award for Best Novel”? [/QUOTE] Yes. JL: - is not alive [omitted stuff in the middle] - is in a Hugo Award-winning novel or story - first appeared in 1958-98 inclusive - does not appear in a Nebula Award-winning novel or story - did not first appear 1958-78 inclusive - was not created by David Brin or Dan Simmons - did not first appear 1979-88 inclusive - appeared in a book which won the Hugo Award for Best Novel ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/171 "2008-06-02T20:33:26Z")
_ **OOOPS!** _ My mistake. The answer is actually “no.” I beg your pardon. JL: - is not alive [omitted stuff in the middle] - is in a Hugo Award-winning novel or story - first appeared in 1958-98 inclusive - does not appear in a Nebula Award-winning novel or story - did not first appear 1958-78 inclusive - was not created by David Brin or Dan Simmons - did not first appear 1979-88 inclusive - has not appeared in a book which won the Hugo Award for Best Novel ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/172 "2008-06-02T20:35:56Z")
Were you a grandaddy at age 23? ETA: Damn, I was glad to see that I actually made some progress. I don’t read sci-fi so I’m just fishing for clues. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/173 "2008-06-02T23:43:11Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] I was just guessing. Ask your DQ. I have no clue about the Benny Hill question, so ask a DQ for that, too. **Dead Cat** , you got me on the BBC question; ask a DQ. JL: - is not alive [omitted stuff in the middle] - is in a Hugo Award-winning novel or story - first appeared in 1958-98 inclusive - does not appear in a Nebula Award-winning novel or story - did not first appear 1958-78 inclusive - was not created by David Brin or Dan Simmons - did not first appear 1979-88 inclusive [/QUOTE] Jane Leeves, of “Frasier,” got her start in show biz as one of Hill’s Angels, on “The Benny Hill Show.” My two DQs: 1. Did you first appear in a novel or story in the past 10 years? 2. Were you created by Vernor Vinge or RObert CHalres Wilson? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/174 "2008-06-03T00:05:01Z")
[QUOTE=astorian] 1. Were you created by Vernor Vinge or RObert CHalres Wilson? [/QUOTE] > [@Elendil's Heir](#): > > All right, this is the last “either/or” DQ I’ll answer. Henceforth, a question like this is worth two DQs. Which is right and proper, IMO. Who ever started people thinking that a question like that wasn’t majorly gaming the system? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/175 "2008-06-03T00:36:57Z")
[QUOTE=Leaper] Which is right and proper, IMO. Who ever started people thinking that a question like that wasn’t majorly gaming the system? 🙂 [/QUOTE] Okay, if I’m cheating, drop my either/or question- replace it with: “Was your Hugo award in the category of Best Novella”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/176 "2008-06-03T03:43:20Z")
**Kid\_A** , I don’t know who that granddaddy was. Ask a DQ. JL: - is not alive [omitted stuff in the middle] - is in a Hugo Award-winning novel or story - first appeared in 1958-98 inclusive - does not appear in a Nebula Award-winning novel or story - did not first appear 1958-78 inclusive - was not created by David Brin or Dan Simmons - did not first appear 1979-88 inclusive - has not appeared in a book which won the Hugo Award for Best Novel - did not first appear in the past ten years - appeared in a work which won a Hugo Award in the category of Best Novella ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/177 "2008-06-03T04:13:36Z")
Are you a knight of Westeros? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/178 "2008-06-03T04:43:06Z")
You got me! I am, indeed, Jaime Lannister, a knight of Westeros and deeply flawed (but perhaps not unredeemable) antihero of the first order, from George R.R. Martin’s wonderful _A Song of Ice and Fire_ fantasy series. For those who don’t know Jaime, here be spoilers (about halfway down the page): > **[Jaime Lannister](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Lannister)** > > Ser Jaime Lannister is a fictional character in the A Song of Ice and Fire series of fantasy novels by American author George R. R. Martin and its television adaptation Game of Thrones, where he is portrayed by Danish actor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. Jaime becomes a prominent point of view character in the novels beginning with A Storm of Swords (2000). > Introduced in A Game of Thrones (1996), Jaime is a knight of the Kingsguard and one of the best swordsmen in the seven kingdoms. He is a member of H... Good job, **astorian**. How long have you suspected it was Ser Jaime? What tipped you off? Thanks, everyone, for playing! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/179 "2008-06-03T04:59:20Z")
For your consideration, here are some pictures of Jaime: [http://cruzdeguia.iespana.es/Jaime.jpg](http://cruzdeguia.iespana.es/Jaime.jpg) [http://www.filmica.com/casiopea/archivos/lannister.jpg](http://www.filmica.com/casiopea/archivos/lannister.jpg) [http://images.elfwood.com/art/c/h/chrisdien/highborn.jpg](http://images.elfwood.com/art/c/h/chrisdien/highborn.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101/180 "2008-06-03T13:39:53Z")
That was the toughest one yet, I believe. Good show, **Elendil’s Heir** and **astorian**! For completeness, my last IQ referred to John Lloyd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-15/450101.md?page=10)