# Botticelli -- Round 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 15, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024 "2007-03-15T12:22:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/1 "2007-03-15T12:22:31Z")

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Since [Boticelli, Part II](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412289) appears to be in a wait sytate at the moment, and since it has reached its seventh page of posts, now may be a good time to start a fresh thread.

[Wanna play Botticelli?](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412154) was started Tuesday morning with one variation to the rules explained in the Wikipedia article [Botticelli (game)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botticelli_(game)) – which you should read if the game is unfamiliar to you. Our variation was to use TWO initials instead of the ONE mentioned in the article.

In this iteration of the Wikipedia rules, we’ll try to follow these variations until they cause us problems we can’t solve:

1. Please label your Guess as either IQ (Indirect Question) or DQ (Direct Question) so that the Chooser (the Doper who has selected the name all others are trying to guess) can know the type of answer to be given to that guess.

2. The Chooser has these options for answers, depending on whether the Question is Indirect or Direct:

2-I1): If the Chooser knows someone for whom the Guesser’s initials apply – _whether or not those initials might apply to the Chooser’s chosen Identity_ – the Chooser may answer: “No, I am not \<the other person for whom the initials work\>” and that particular Guesser remains in Indirect Mode.

2-I2): If the Chooser cannot identify someone – (_including the Chooser’s chosen Identity_) – with the attributes provided by the Guesser, the Chooser may answer “No, and I don’t know who you mean.” which allows that particular Guesser ONE Direct Question. The Guesser should quote the Chooser’s response and label the Direct Question as such, so the Chooser will know the options available for the follow-up question.

2-I3): If the Guesser’s criteria match with the Chooser’s Identity – _AND the Chooser is unable to name someone else with those same initials who also matches the criteria_ – The Chooser **must** answer “Yes, I am \<Identity’s name\>” thereby giving that Guesser a win of the game.

2-D): Legitimate answers are “Yes,” “No,” and “I don’t know.” Additional details are permissible but not required. Chooser gives extra information at his/her own risk. The “I don’t know” response allows that Guesser an additional DQ. Again, the Guesser should quote Chooser’s response and label the follow-up as DQ.

1. Whether in response to an IQ or a DQ (in both types of Guesses this will be legal for the Guesser) if the Guess is “Are you \<some specific person with the initials in question\>?” (as opposed to someone with defined characteristics) the Chooser’s answers must be either “Yes” or “No” and, if “Yes” then the Guesser wins the game.

2. The Chosen Identity – in this particular thread – must be an actual person, dead or alive, but someone who has actually lived.

3. The Indirect Question(s) may refer to real or fictional people, characters or personages in fictional works, but must be Proper Names. Example: if the Chooser’s Identity’s initials are RS, then “rolling stone” or “red snake” or “rotting spinach” would not be legal entities to which Guesser’s attributes apply.

4. Both Guesser and Chooser should quote the post to which he or she is responding. This should avoid much confusion!

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For other fine points not covered in the Wikipedia article, **Zeldar** will arbitrate any disputed issues **in this thread**. Those Dopers who wish to select other variations and/or other interpretations of the rules, are urged to start another thread.

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First Round: My initials are TL

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**Author:** ![hocow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hocow/32/4112_2.png) [@hocow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hocow)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/2 "2007-03-15T14:42:57Z")

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Did you open a tobacco shop in 1765?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/3 "2007-03-15T14:46:41Z")

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[QUOTE=hocow]  
Did you open a tobacco shop in 1765?  
[/QUOTE]

I have no idea who this could be

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/4 "2007-03-15T14:47:46Z")

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IQ: Are you a British soldier with an Arabian connection?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/5 "2007-03-15T14:49:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
IQ: Are you a British soldier with an Arabian connection?  
[/QUOTE]

No, I’m not TE Lawrence (of Arabia)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/6 "2007-03-15T15:41:58Z")

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Have you ever been marooned?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/7 "2007-03-15T15:45:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
Have you ever been marooned?  
[/QUOTE]

Not that I noticed! 😃

You get a DQ

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/8 "2007-03-15T15:46:52Z")

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[Tina Louise](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Louise) played Ginger on Gilligan’s Island.

DQ: Are you alive?

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**Author:** ![Smitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Smitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smitty)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/9 "2007-03-15T15:49:57Z")

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Did you ever coach the Dallas Cowboys?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/10 "2007-03-15T15:59:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
[Tina Louise](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Louise) played Ginger on Gilligan’s Island.

DQ: Are you alive?  
[/QUOTE]

Yes

TL is:

Alive

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/11 "2007-03-15T16:00:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Smitty]  
Did you ever coach the Dallas Cowboys?  
[/QUOTE]

No, I’m not Tom Landry

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/12 "2007-03-15T16:07:42Z")

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Were you a baseball coach?

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**Author:** ![kurilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@kurilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurilla)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/13 "2007-03-15T16:08:34Z")

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Were you an adult film star?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/14 "2007-03-15T16:13:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.]  
Were you a baseball coach?  
[/QUOTE]

No, I’m not Tommy Lasorda

> [@kurilla](#):
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> Were you an adult film star?

No, I’m not Tracy Lords

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/15 "2007-03-15T16:16:02Z")

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Did you poison pigeons?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/16 "2007-03-15T16:19:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.]  
Did you poison pigeons?  
[/QUOTE]

You devil! No, I’m not Tom Lehrer.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/17 "2007-03-15T16:19:50Z")

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Are you a former Cardinals outfielder?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/18 "2007-03-15T16:20:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Enginerd]  
Are you a former Cardinals outfielder?  
[/QUOTE]

No, and I can’t name your man

You get a DQ

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/19 "2007-03-15T16:24:36Z")

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Are you a fast mover who takes a definite turn to the left?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-round-3/396024/20 "2007-03-15T16:25:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
No, and I can’t name your man

You get a DQ  
[/QUOTE]

[Tito Landrum](http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/landrti01.shtml)

DQ: Are you male?

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