# Botticelli - Sep 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 3, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928 "2013-09-03T22:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/181 "2013-09-16T13:32:49Z")
Thinking out loud of French painters (very roughly) around that time: Gauguin, Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, Toulouse-Latrec, Vernet… who am I forgetting? Matisse, Mondrian, Picasso and Dali were later, and the latter two were Spanish anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/182 "2013-09-16T13:47:10Z")
Note: The artists you just named were all mainly successful AFTER 1850. This guy died before 1850. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/183 "2013-09-16T16:38:30Z")
No, we’re after contemporaries of Fragonard and David. Like I said earlier, Gros would have qualified, except it’s not him. Gauguin was born in 1848, if I recall. It might be worth finding out if our fellow became famous while in France or elsewhere; maybe he spent more of his life in Spain or Italy. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/184 "2013-09-16T18:57:38Z")
That’s why I said “very roughly.” DQ: Became famous while painting in France? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/185 "2013-09-16T19:02:13Z")
DQs: 1. Real. 2. Male. 3. Not American. 4. Dead. 5. European. 6. Died after 1800. 7. Last name starts with G. 8. Not British. 9. Died before 1900. 10. French. 11. Not political/military. 12. Died before 1850. 13. Known for the arts. 14. Not known for literature in any form. 15. Known for the visual arts. 16. Painter 17. While one of his paintings usually makes the list of the top 100 most important paintings, he’s equally as well known for his entire oeuvre 18. Became famous in France through his paintings at the Paris Salons of 1812 and, especially, 1819. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/186 "2013-09-17T16:17:20Z")
So, are we totally suck? And by “we” I really mean “everybody else who could name any 19th century French painters at all, because I sure as hell can’t”? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/187 "2013-09-17T16:26:39Z")
Well, fanganga and etv78 haven’t been by for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/188 "2013-09-17T16:57:43Z")
Because French art is not my forte. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/189 "2013-09-17T17:21:32Z")
I think it’s either **Hugh Gotmé** or **I. Guiveup** , though when I find out who it is, I may well scream ‘ **Gaahh** ’! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/190 "2013-09-17T18:08:54Z")
I thought of going with Goya or Gainsborough, but… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/191 "2013-09-17T18:56:01Z")
They were Spanish and English, respectively, right? I give up. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/192 "2013-09-17T19:48:18Z")
Okay, then. I am [Theodore Gericault](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A9odore_G%C3%A9ricault), (1791-1824) pioneer of the Romantic movement in art and creator of [The Raft of the Medusa](http://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/raft-medusa). [Gericault](http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/gericault_theodore.html) not only has 21 works in the Louvre, but works in the Getty, the Art Institute of Chicago, the Dallas Museum of Art, the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, the Brooklyn Museum, the Cleveland Museum of Art, Harvard, the National Gallery in London, and many others. I’ll post the next letter-person this evening. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/193 "2013-09-17T22:03:08Z")
I’m familiar with The Raft of the _Medusa_, but if I ever knew the artist’s name I forgot it many years ago… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/194 "2013-09-18T00:37:12Z")
Hmm. Never heard of him. Has anyone else here? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/195 "2013-09-18T01:05:32Z")
Type “Gericault” in a Google Search and you’ll get close to half a million hits. Next letter, I am T. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/196 "2013-09-18T02:05:03Z")
IQ1: Does your brother hang out with Eddie and Lumpy? IQ2: Do you often say “Touche away!”? IQ3: Did you invent the Chicago typewriter? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/197 "2013-09-18T02:28:33Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Does your brother hang out with Eddie and Lumpy? > IQ2: Do you often say “Touche away!”? > IQ3: Did you invent the Chicago typewriter? I am not Theodore “the Beaver” Cleaver. I am not Touche Turtle. Take a DQ for #3. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/198 "2013-09-18T03:26:42Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Does your brother hang out with Eddie and Lumpy? > IQ2: Do you often say “Touche away!”? > IQ3: Did you invent the Chicago typewriter? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I am not Theodore “the Beaver” Cleaver. > I am not Touche Turtle. > Take a DQ for #3. Correct on Theodore and Touche. The “Chicago typewriter” was just one of the nicknames for John Taliaferro Thompson’s submachine gun. DQ: Real? IQ1: Did you think that feeling was believing? IQ2: Did you carry Robin halfway across the river? IQ3: Were you Austria’s top-scoring submarine captain? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/199 "2013-09-18T03:52:16Z")
IQ: Did you hold the top position in 2 branches of the Federal government, the latter your dream job? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/200 "2013-09-18T10:14:42Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Did you think that feeling was believing? > IQ2: Did you carry Robin halfway across the river? > IQ3: Were you Austria’s top-scoring submarine captain? Maybe it’s just early. Take 3 DQs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928.md?page=11)