# Botticelli - Sep 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 3, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928 "2013-09-03T22:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/321 "2013-09-26T03:43:24Z")

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What was it that made you think it might be ol’ Oscar?

For **SCAdian** : [Oscar de la Renta - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_de_la_Renta)

IQs:

Were you a postmaster and a grocer before moving on to a much more important job?  
Did your husband joke that your family thought it was better than God?  
Did _Monty Python_ reimagine you as a gunslinger?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/322 "2013-09-26T03:48:49Z")

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Shazbot!! I was thinking of Oscar de la Renta when I asked about fashion. Well done, M. **Levesque**!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/323 "2013-09-26T04:32:23Z")

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IQ1: Are you Beetle Bailey’s sister?  
IQ2: Are you an archaeologist who was killed in a motorcycle accident?  
IQ3: Did you write of aliens who looked like baby elephants with two trunks?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/324 "2013-09-26T12:08:24Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you have a vision of man riding a flying, flaming pie?
2. Are you another well known name for King Nebuchadnezzar?
3. Did you get it on with a swan?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/325 "2013-09-26T14:33:17Z")

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IQ1: Are you the title character of a Wagner opera?  
IQ2: Were you the librettist for 3 of Mozart’s most celebrated operas?  
IQ3: Are you the title character of Alban Berg’s second opera?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/326 "2013-09-26T20:52:21Z")

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IQ1: Were you involved in a complex love polygon with at least Demetrius, Hermia and Helena?  
IQ2: Would you rather offer your daughters to the tender mercies of a mob than your guests?  
IQ3: Did you famously make your notes in mirror-writing?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/327 "2013-09-26T21:44:31Z")

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IQ1: Are you associated with a vehicle named for a city known for its Redbirds?  
IQ2: Did Dana Carvey mention you, under another name?  
IQ3: Did you nearly have a fistfight over a missing poker chip?

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**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/328 "2013-09-26T21:46:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> What was it that made you think it might be ol’ Oscar?
> 
> For **SCAdian** : [Oscar de la Renta - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_de_la_Renta)
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a postmaster and a grocer before moving on to a much more important job?  
> Did your husband joke that your family thought it was better than God?  
> Did _Monty Python_ reimagine you as a gunslinger?

I have to admit Ministre’s DQ inspired me because I didn’t think of fashion design right away when you said he was connected to the arts.

Also, I can only thin of Thomas Lipton for #1. If not, have 3 DQs because I don’t know the others.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you Beetle Bailey’s sister?  
> IQ2: Are you an archaeologist who was killed in a motorcycle accident?  
> IQ3: Did you write of aliens who looked like baby elephants with two trunks?

I’ not T.E. Lawrence or Lois Flagston. DQ for #3.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you have a vision of man riding a flying, flaming pie?
> 2. Are you another well known name for King Nebuchadnezzar?
> 3. Did you get it on with a swan?

Not Leda. 2 DQs

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the title character of a Wagner opera?  
> IQ2: Were you the librettist for 3 of Mozart’s most celebrated operas?  
> IQ3: Are you the title character of Alban Berg’s second opera?

Not Lohengrin or Lulu. DQ for #2.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Were you involved in a complex love polygon with at least Demetrius, Hermia and Helena?  
> IQ2: Would you rather offer your daughters to the tender mercies of a mob than your guests?  
> IQ3: Did you famously make your notes in mirror-writing?

Not Lysander or Leonardo da Vinci. Have a DQ for the second one.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/329 "2013-09-26T22:15:58Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Were you involved in a complex love polygon with at least Demetrius, Hermia and Helena?

As you say, Lysander from A Midsummer Night’s Dream.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ2: Would you rather offer your daughters to the tender mercies of a mob than your guests?

Then you are not Lot, the last righteous man in Sodom. My phrasing may have made this misleading as Lot offered his daughters to the mob when the mob demanded his guests, but looking at the question I see it could be read as lot trusting the mob with his daughters more than trusting his guests with his daughters.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ3: Did you famously make your notes in mirror-writing?

As you say, Leonardo da Vinci

DQ: Are you male?

IQ1: Have you been looking for love in several wrong places?  
IQ2: Are you a member of the Legion of Doom?  
IQ3: Are you one of Tina Fey’s better known characters?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/330 "2013-09-26T22:41:52Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ1: Are you associated with a vehicle named for a city known for its Redbirds?  
> IQ2: Did Dana Carvey mention you, under another name?  
> IQ3: Did you nearly have a fistfight over a missing poker chip?

Miss these?

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**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/331 "2013-09-26T22:45:28Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ1: Are you associated with a vehicle named for a city known for its Redbirds?  
> IQ2: Did Dana Carvey mention you, under another name?  
> IQ3: Did you nearly have a fistfight over a missing poker chip?

3 DQS

> [@fanganga](#):
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> DQ: Are you male?
> 
> IQ1: Have you been looking for love in several wrong places?  
> IQ2: Are you a member of the Legion of Doom?  
> IQ3: Are you one of Tina Fey’s better known characters?

Yes, I am male.

But I’m not Johnny Lee, Lex Luthor or Liz Lemon.

L.

1. Male

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/332 "2013-09-26T23:04:43Z")

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Those were:

1)Charles Lindberg  
2)Lucifer  
3)Jeff Lisandro

DQ1)Living?  
DQ2)American?  
DQ3)Born North of the Mason-Dixon line?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/333 "2013-09-26T23:25:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you have a vision of man riding a flying, flaming pie?
> 2. Are you another well known name for King Nebuchadnezzar?
> 3. Did you get it on with a swan?

> [@guylevesque](#):
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> Not Leda. 2 DQs

1. John Lennon, when asked how the Beatles got their name, said that he had a vision of a man riding a flaming pie that was flying through the sky. He told John “You shall be the Beatles with an A.” And John said, “Thank you, Mr. man.” Paul named one of his more recent albums _Flaming Pie_ accordingly. John, of course, was joshing.

2. Isaiah 14:12 calls Nebuchadnezzaar “Lucifer” (Light bringer) and predicts his fall.

3. Yeah, Leda.

I’ll wait on my DQs.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/334 "2013-09-26T23:41:50Z")

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Correct on Lex Luthor and Liz Lemon. Johnny Lee wasn’t whom I was thinking of, but I’ll give you the point.

IQ: Were the wrong places where you were looking for love in the city of Lost Wages?

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**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/335 "2013-09-27T00:24:04Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Those were:
> 
> 1)Charles Lindberg  
> 2)Lucifer  
> 3)Jeff Lisandro
> 
> DQ1)Living?  
> DQ2)American?  
> DQ3)Born North of the Mason-Dixon line?

Dead. Not American but geographically born North of the Mason-Dixon Line

> [@fanganga](#):
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> Correct on Lex Luthor and Liz Lemon. Johnny Lee wasn’t whom I was thinking of, but I’ll give you the point.
> 
> IQ: Were the wrong places where you were looking for love in the city of Lost Wages?

Not Larry Laffer.

L.

1. Male
2. Dead
3. Not American
4. Born North of the Mason-Dixon Line

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/336 "2013-09-27T01:59:15Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you Beetle Bailey’s sister?  
> IQ2: Are you an archaeologist who was killed in a motorcycle accident?  
> IQ3: Did you write of aliens who looked like baby elephants with two trunks?

> [@guylevesque](#):
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> I’ not T.E. Lawrence or Lois Flagston. DQ for #3.

Correct on Lois and Lawrence.  
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle wrote _Footfall_, which told of an alien invasion of the Earth.  
DQ: European?  
IQ1: Did your brother outscore you in World War I?  
IQ2: Were you the millionaire’s wife?  
IQ3: Did your army meet disaster in Egypt?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/337 "2013-09-27T02:47:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
> 
> Were you a postmaster and a grocer before moving on to a much more important job?  
> Did your husband joke that your family thought it was better than God?  
> Did _Monty Python_ reimagine you as a gunslinger?

> [@guylevesque](#):
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> …I can only thin[k] of Thomas Lipton for #1. If not, have 3 DQs because I don’t know the others…

Abraham Lincoln.  
Mary Todd Lincoln (“…God only needed one ‘d’”).  
“No-Time Toulouse” Latrec.

DQs:

European?  
Last name start with L?  
Died since 1900?

IQs:

Did you live in Vermont with two oddly-named siblings?  
Did you not notice your son’s allergic reaction on Thanksgiving?  
Were you a doctor featured in _1776_?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/338 "2013-09-27T17:33:55Z")

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IQ1: Did conditions in your colonial holdings inspire Joseph Conrad to write Heart of Darkness?  
IQ2: Did you propose one of the earliest iterations of big bang theory with your “primeval atom”?  
IQ3: Did you propose a theory of evolution by inheritance of acquired characteristics, that was superseded by Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/339 "2013-09-27T19:06:34Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the title character of a Wagner opera?  
> IQ2: Were you the librettist for 3 of Mozart’s most celebrated operas?  
> IQ3: Are you the title character of Alban Berg’s second opera?

> [@guylevesque](#):
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> Not Lohengrin or Lulu. DQ for #2.

#2 is **Lorenzo da Ponte** , who was the librettist for ‘The Marriage of Figaro’, ‘Don Giovanni’ and ‘Così fan tutte’.

I’ll hold on to my DQ for a moment, if I may.

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**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/340 "2013-09-28T19:24:33Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ: European?  
> IQ1: Did your brother outscore you in World War I?  
> IQ2: Were you the millionaire’s wife?  
> IQ3: Did your army meet disaster in Egypt?

No idea. 3 DQs

Yes, I’m European.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> European?  
> Last name start with L?  
> Died since 1900?
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Did you live in Vermont with two oddly-named siblings?  
> Did you not notice your son’s allergic reaction on Thanksgiving?  
> Were you a doctor featured in _1776_?

My last name starts with L and I died after 1900.  
Not Lyman Hall. Have 2 DQs.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Did conditions in your colonial holdings inspire Joseph Conrad to write Heart of Darkness?  
> IQ2: Did you propose one of the earliest iterations of big bang theory with your “primeval atom”?  
> IQ3: Did you propose a theory of evolution by inheritance of acquired characteristics, that was superseded by Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection?

I’m not Leopold II of Belgium or Georges Lemaître. DQ for the last question.

L.

1. Male
2. Dead
3. Not American
4. Born North of the Mason-Dixon Line
5. European
6. Last name starts with L
7. Dead after 1900

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