# Botticelli - Sep 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 3, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928 "2013-09-03T22:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/41 "2013-09-04T20:14:27Z")

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Interesting. Assuming my Google search can be trusted, not only has this individual never been the subject of an SDMB Botticelli game, but he’s never been the subject of an IQ, either.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/42 "2013-09-04T20:19:01Z")

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IQ1: Are you a fictional character created by another fictional character who based yet _another_ fictional character on himself in books that are published in the real world?  
(Yeah, that one’s a doozy, but it was fun.)  
IQ2: Are you a member of the RCMP?  
IQ3: Are you a TV character derived from a comic character with a different first name, but the same anger management issues?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/43 "2013-09-04T20:23:28Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a fictional character created by another fictional character who based yet _another_ fictional character on himself in books that are published in the real world?  
> (Yeah, that one’s a doozy, but it was fun.)  
> IQ2: Are you a member of the RCMP?  
> IQ3: Are you a TV character derived from a comic character with a different first name, but the same anger management issues?

Huh?  
Not Dudley Do-Right.  
Take another DQ.  
Prof Pepperwinkle, Elendil’s Heir and Draelin have three unasked DQs each.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/44 "2013-09-04T20:28:12Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a fictional character created by another fictional character who based yet _another_ fictional character on himself in books that are published in the real world?  
> (Yeah, that one’s a doozy, but it was fun.)

Derek Storm, created by Richard Castle (from the tv series _Castle_), who publishes a book every year right around the start of the season (with a thinly-veiled version of himself named “Rook” as one of the main characters).

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> IQ3: Are you a TV character derived from a comic character with a different first name, but the same anger management issues?

David Banner, from the _Incredible Hulk_ tv series.

And I don’t have a reserved DQ, so I’m down to two. 🙂 However, I don’t want to take the last slot without a better idea of what we’re looking at … soooo, any ideas, anybody?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/45 "2013-09-04T20:30:59Z")

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Yep, but I just hosted the three previous rounds. If you look at my last answers, maybe you can win the bronze star.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/46 "2013-09-05T00:17:06Z")

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A lot of the pieces seem very pulpy - early twentieth century, a recurring hero, fantastical elements without a fantastical focus, and I’m no good on pulps. I keep thinking of Edgar Rice Burroughs, but neither Tarzan nor John Carter have the right letter.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/47 "2013-09-05T01:43:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you distrust men with their eyes too close to their noses?  
> Did Brian Cox play your dad?  
> Were you a TV newscaster in a long-running comic strip?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …Three more DQs for you.

Clarence Darrow - one of his less rational criteria for selecting jurors  
Daphne Moon on _Frasier_  
John Darling

I can’t figure out who this guy is. Someone else can ask DQ #20, if they like, from my earned ones.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/48 "2013-09-05T01:56:34Z")

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DQ: Movie win an Oscar?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/49 "2013-09-05T02:09:06Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> DQ: Movie win an Oscar?

Are you sure you want to ask that, in view of #14?

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/50 "2013-09-05T12:03:04Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> A lot of the pieces seem very pulpy - early twentieth century, a recurring hero, fantastical elements without a fantastical focus, and I’m no good on pulps. I keep thinking of Edgar Rice Burroughs, but neither Tarzan nor John Carter have the right letter.

That’s about where I’m stuck, too. I already have a feeling I’m going to kick myself when we get the answer, but my brain is completely hung up on mysteries and sci-fi and I just can’t seem to get past it.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/51 "2013-09-05T12:55:35Z")

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IQ: Were you an American pulp novel writer whose lead character was surrounded by a coterie of athletic geniuses, and was the at least partial inspiration for Superman, Batman and Buckaroo Banzai? Or am I superamalgamated?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/52 "2013-09-05T14:05:37Z")

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Hmmm.

IQ:

Were you an adventure hero whose first name was a shortened form of a professional title?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/53 "2013-09-05T20:10:04Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Are you sure you want to ask that, in view of #14?

Plenty of commercial duds win Oscars! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/54 "2013-09-05T21:30:45Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Plenty of commercial duds win Oscars! :rolleyes:

Do they? I’ve never really paid attention…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/55 "2013-09-05T21:45:45Z")

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D

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with D
4. American
5. From literature
6. Creator was American
7. First appearance was not after 1950
8. Main character in my story
9. Adult
10. Appeared in more than one work
11. Was turned into a movie
12. Did not first appear in a novel
13. Considered a “good guy”
14. Movie not considered a box-office hit
15. There are mysterious events, but not normally considered to be a mystery (or series of mysteries)
16. The majority of my appearances are/were not in comic-book form
17. There are SF and paranormal aspects to some of the tales, but overall not part of a fantasy, sci-fi, or paranormal genre
18. First appeared after 1900
19. Birthplace unknown; primary residence is not south of the Mason-Dixon Line
20. Movie did not win an Oscar

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/56 "2013-09-05T21:49:05Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ: Were you an American pulp novel writer whose lead character was surrounded by a coterie of athletic geniuses, and was the at least partial inspiration for Superman, Batman and Buckaroo Banzai? Or am I superamalgamated?

Not Lester Dent.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ:
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> Were you an adventure hero whose first name was a shortened form of a professional title?

Well, since I can’t think of anyone else who fits that description,  
I guess I’ll have to admit that I am  
Dr Clark Savage, Jr  
(commonly known as Doc Savage).

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/57 "2013-09-05T21:57:25Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Yep, but I just hosted the three previous rounds. If you look at my last answers, maybe you can win the bronze star.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> My IQ answers:
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> 1. Doctor Who sometimes calls himself Mr. Smith
> 2. Doc
> 3. Dan Savage

Cute, Prof… 8)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/58 "2013-09-05T23:44:42Z")

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Huh. I didn’t even notice that… at least not consciously.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/59 "2013-09-05T23:45:37Z")

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Congrats, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/60 "2013-09-06T00:11:55Z")

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And, of course, the Prof’s comment about winning “the bronze star” is a reference to Doc Savage’s nickname, The Man of Bronze.

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