# Botticelli - Sep 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 3, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928 "2013-09-03T22:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/81 "2013-09-08T04:14:34Z")

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M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/82 "2013-09-08T04:17:42Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a composer whose best known work was premiered in a concentration camp?  
> IQ2: Are you an Alberta-born singer-songwriter?  
> IQ3: Are you a jazz bassist who collaborated with the above-mentioned Albertan?

I’ve heard of the first, but dunno names of any of these. Take three DQs.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did your father warn you not to get cider in your ear?  
> IQ2: Did you write _A Musical Joke_?  
> IQ3: Are you the angel who visited Joseph Smith?

Not Nathan Detroit’s friend, whose name escapes me. Dunno the second. Not Moroni.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you Edgar Bergan’s second best known puppet?
> 2. Did Peter Lorre portray you in a series of movies?
> 3. Were you Wayland Flower’s best known puppet?

Not Mortimer Snerd, dunno the second, not Madame.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/83 "2013-09-08T10:40:31Z")

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IQ: Are you the leader of a fictional drug gang, one of whose enforcers is a fictionalised version of the actress who plays her?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/84 "2013-09-08T11:55:25Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a composer whose best known work was premiered in a concentration camp?  
> IQ2: Are you an Alberta-born singer-songwriter?  
> IQ3: Are you a jazz bassist who collaborated with the above-mentioned Albertan?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ve heard of the first, but dunno names of any of these. Take three DQs.

#1 is **Olivier Messiaen** , whose ‘Quartet for the End of Time’ was first performed at Görlitz, with the composer at the piano and three fellow prisoners playing clarinet, violin and cello.

#2. is **Joni Mitchell** , and #3 is **Charles Mingus**. ‘Mingus’ is the title of her 9th or 10th album, and if I’m remembering correctly, it was Charles Mingus’ last recording.

DQ1: Originally from a film?  
DQ2: Is ‘M’ the initial letter of your last name?  
DQ3: Are you set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/85 "2013-09-08T12:41:25Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did your father warn you not to get cider in your ear?  
> IQ2: Did you write _A Musical Joke_?  
> IQ3: Are you the angel who visited Joseph Smith?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Nathan Detroit’s friend, whose name escapes me. Dunno the second. Not Moroni.

Nathan’s friend was Sky Masterson.  
_Ein musikalischer Spaß_ (_A Musical Joke_) was writen by Mozart.  
Correct on Moroni.  
Two DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II?  
IQ2: Are you Foggy Nelson’s law partner?  
IQ3: Were you the star of a Marvel non-supers comic?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/86 "2013-09-08T14:06:27Z")

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1. Did Peter Lorre portray you in a series of movies?

Mr. Moto.

I’ll wait on the DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/87 "2013-09-08T16:12:46Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Are you the leader of a fictional drug gang, one of whose enforcers is a fictionalised version of the actress who plays her?

Dunno. Take a DQ.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II?  
> IQ2: Are you Foggy Nelson’s law partner?  
> IQ3: Were you the star of a Marvel non-supers comic?

Not Model. Don’t know the other two.

M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre
9. Originally from a film
10. M is first letter of last name
11. Set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/88 "2013-09-08T17:16:33Z")

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DQ: Main character in the story?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/89 "2013-09-08T17:51:52Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II?  
> IQ2: Are you Foggy Nelson’s law partner?  
> IQ3: Were you the star of a Marvel non-supers comic?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Model. Don’t know the other two.

Not the one I had in mind, but he’ll do.  
Matt Murdoch, aka Daredevil, The Man Without Fear.  
Millie the Model.  
DQ: Considered a “good guy”?

Three DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II who was not named Model?  
IQ2: Did your husband claim what should have been your sister’s when you died?  
IQ3: Was a type of WWII bomber named after you?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/90 "2013-09-08T21:09:45Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Are you the leader of a fictional drug gang, one of whose enforcers is a fictionalised version of the actress who plays her?

Marlo Stanfield, from the wire - the enforcer in question is Felicia “Snoop” Pearson.

DQ1: Is the film in which you appeared in the comedy genre?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/91 "2013-09-08T21:42:09Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II who was not named Model?  
> IQ2: Did your husband claim what should have been your sister’s when you died?  
> IQ3: Was a type of WWII bomber named after you?

Not… Mannstein?  
Dunno this one.  
Not Billy Mitchell. Was that the B-25?

M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre
9. Originally from a film
10. M is first letter of last name
11. Set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years
12. Not main character
13. Considered a “good guy”
14. In a comedy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/92 "2013-09-08T22:03:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the author of _The Guide for the Perplexed_?
2. Did you torment Captain Kangaroo with ping-pong balls?
3. Are you the creator of the song _The Dope Show_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/93 "2013-09-09T00:15:59Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a German field marshal on the Eastern Front during WW II who was not named Model?  
> IQ2: Did your husband claim what should have been your sister’s when you died?  
> IQ3: Was a type of WWII bomber named after you?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not… Mannstein?  
> Dunno this one.  
> Not Billy Mitchell. Was that the B-25?

Erich von Manstein, but close enough.  
Mary II. Her sister Anne should have inherited the throne, but Mary’s husband had refused to accept the throne for her lifetime only and reigned on as William III until his death.  
Correct on Billy Mitchell. (Yes, it was the North American B-25. Jimmy Doolittle used them to attack Tokyo.)  
DQ: Created after 1990?

Three DQs still reserved.  
IQ1: Were you an unusual housewife, portrayed by Yvonne DeCarlo?  
IQ2: Were you a 19th-century emperor of Mexico?  
IQ3: Were you, your brothers and a dentist involved in a famous fight in Tombstone AZ?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/94 "2013-09-09T01:34:14Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the author of _The Guide for the Perplexed_?
> 2. Did you torment Captain Kangaroo with ping-pong balls?
> 3. Are you the creator of the song _The Dope Show_?

Dunno the first two; not Spike Milligan.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …IQ1: Were you an unusual housewife, portrayed by Yvonne DeCarlo?  
> IQ2: Were you a 19th-century emperor of Mexico?  
> IQ3: Were you, your brothers and a dentist involved in a famous fight in Tombstone AZ?

Dunno the first. Not Maximilian. Not… Mike Clanton?

M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre
9. Originally from a film
10. M is first letter of last name
11. Set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years
12. Not main character
13. Considered a “good guy”
14. In a comedy
15. Created before 1990

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/95 "2013-09-09T02:13:51Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you an unusual housewife, portrayed by Yvonne DeCarlo?  
> IQ2: Were you a 19th-century emperor of Mexico?  
> IQ3: Were you, your brothers and a dentist involved in a famous fight in Tombstone AZ?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno the first. Not Maximilian. Not… Mike Clanton?

Lily Munster.  
Correct on Maximilian.  
Morgan Earp. (Ike - not Mike - Clanton was the leader of the other side in that fight.)  
I’m lost here…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/96 "2013-09-09T02:27:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the author of The Guide for the Perplexed?
> 2. Did you torment Captain Kangaroo with ping-pong balls?
> 3. Are you the creator of the song The Dope Show?  
> Dunno the first two; not Spike Milligan.

1. Physician and Hebrew scholar Moses Maimonides
2. Mr. Moose
3. Not Spike (that was The Goon Show), but Marilyn Manson (one of my daughter’s favorites)

I’ll start pondering my next DQs.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/97 "2013-09-09T14:06:28Z")

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IQ: Did your film feature a scene in which you wet your trousers in a show of solidarity with a young child?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/98 "2013-09-09T16:10:20Z")

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DQs:

1. Created after 1970?
2. Directed by Mel Brooks?

and saving one more.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/99 "2013-09-10T01:32:22Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Did your film feature a scene in which you wet your trousers in a show of solidarity with a young child?

Wow, good question! Dunno who this is, though.

M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre
9. Originally from a film
10. M is first letter of last name
11. Set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years
12. Not main character
13. Considered a “good guy”
14. In a comedy
15. Created before 1990
16. Created after 1970
17. Not directed by Mel Brooks

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/100 "2013-09-10T08:09:48Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Did your film feature a scene in which you wet your trousers in a show of solidarity with a young child?

That was Billy Madison. My DQ is available to anyone who thinks they can make good use of it.

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