# Botticelli - Sep 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 3, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928 "2013-09-03T22:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/101 "2013-09-10T11:58:14Z")

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Fictional Male, last name starts with M, American, NOT the main character, contemporary setting, from a movie comedy made 1970-1990, not Mel Brooks, not sf/fantasy. Ah. Hmm. Well.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/102 "2013-09-10T12:42:28Z")

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IQ: Is the name you’re thinking of the name used by a male character posing as a woman for the sake of a job?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/103 "2013-09-10T16:47:30Z")

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Even without Mel Brooks, there are plenty of one-off comedies in that time frame - Stripes, Animal House, Meatballs, Caddyshack (was there a Caddyshack II?), Silver Streak, etc.

Are we sure it isn’t something animated? Seems to me A Bug’s Life, Mulan and The Iron Giant are early enough one-offs… There are no appropriate characters that leap to mind, but maybe someone else has some good ideas.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/104 "2013-09-10T16:49:07Z")

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IQ: Did your wife drive you crazy by shouting “Humperdink! Humperdink!” over and over again?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/105 "2013-09-10T16:49:10Z")

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Good point, Le Ministre.

DQ: Animated?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/106 "2013-09-10T19:47:57Z")

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There was a _Caddyshack II_. Terrible movie

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/107 "2013-09-10T20:08:31Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Is the name you’re thinking of the name used by a male character posing as a woman for the sake of a job?

I suspect this is from _Some Like It Hot_ or _Bosom Buddies_, but I dunno the name. Take a DQ.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Did your wife drive you crazy by shouting “Humperdink! Humperdink!” over and over again?

Take a DQ.

M.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American
4. Created after 1950
5. Did not originally appear in a work of literature
6. Created by American(s)
7. Appeared in only one work
8. Not in the science fiction, fantasy or paranormal genre
9. Originally from a film
10. M is first letter of last name
11. Set in a contemporary period, here defined as the last seventy years
12. Not main character
13. Considered a “good guy”
14. In a comedy
15. Created before 1990
16. Created after 1970
17. Not directed by Mel Brooks
18. Not an animated film

Bonus clue: Not in _Caddyshack II_.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/108 "2013-09-10T20:19:18Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?
2. Are you the Mystery Cat?
3. Did you prophesy that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/109 "2013-09-10T20:58:32Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Did your wife drive you crazy by shouting “Humperdink! Humperdink!” over and over again?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Take a DQ.

It was a shot in the dark - I thought you might be **Miracle Max** from ‘The Princess Bride’. I have a vague notion that his last name was something like ‘Morgenstern’, but as I think on it, Princess Bride was a book before it was a film…

I’ll go see if I can think of anything useful to do with a DQ.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/110 "2013-09-10T21:42:07Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Is the name you’re thinking of the name used by a male character posing as a woman for the sake of a job?

Dorothy Michaels, from Tootsie.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/111 "2013-09-11T03:02:34Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?
> 2. Are you the Mystery Cat?
> 3. Did you prophesy that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem?

Not poor old Marley  
Not McCavity (sp?)  
Not… Micah?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/112 "2013-09-11T10:56:23Z")

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Correct on Jacob Marley, Macavity and Micah.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/113 "2013-09-11T12:13:30Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _The Late George Apley_?
2. Were you an Italian figurative artist known for highly elongated forms?
3. Did you voice America’s favorite ogre?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/114 "2013-09-11T14:34:02Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Late George Apley_?
> 2. Were you an Italian figurative artist known for highly elongated forms?
> 3. Did you voice America’s favorite ogre?

Dunno the first, not Modigliani, not Mike Meyers.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/115 "2013-09-11T14:36:29Z")

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J. P. Marquand won a Pulitzer for Apley (and Red Skelton based his character George Appleby on George Apley). He also wrote the Mr. Moto stories.

Now if I can only figure out which comedy from 1970-1990.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/116 "2013-09-11T16:41:33Z")

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Maybe…

IQ: Did you tell Clarence he had clearance?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/117 "2013-09-12T03:43:23Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Maybe…
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> IQ: Did you tell Clarence he had clearance?

Yes! I am First Officer

Roger Murdock

in _Airplane!_, and certainly not Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fVq4_HhBK8Y/hqdefault.jpg "What's our vector, Victor?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVq4_HhBK8Y)

[![](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JHkPUps5L._SX342_.jpg) ](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JHkPUps5L._SX342_.jpg)

Well done, **Prof. P.**!

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/118 "2013-09-12T12:41:59Z")

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Surely you can’t have won it again? Congratulatons, and I’ll refrain from calling you Shirley.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/119 "2013-09-12T12:44:13Z")

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Two of my co-workers were discussing the movie in the same room with me, and going through the whole “What’s your vector, Victor?” bit so it wasn’t the result of my usual recourse to ratiocination.

Thanks all!

And this time around I am…

G

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sep-2013/667928/120 "2013-09-12T13:06:35Z")

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Man, I have _not_ been able to keep up with the thread this week. Congrats to all the winners!

IQ1: Did you play God in two movies?  
IQ2: Did you do everything your partner did, only backwards and in heels?  
IQ3: Did you lose an ear and feel saintlike?

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