# Botticelli, Sept. 2022

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**Created:** [September 1, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748 "2022-09-01T17:46:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/41 "2022-09-07T14:47:28Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Do you and J. Lo got a big, big booty?  
> IQ2: Did you significantly contribute to the design of an entertainment company’s cash cow and mascot, and not receive commensurate credit?  
> IQ3: Did you create the Black Widowers?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno x3, **CFOHG**.

Iggy Azalea - from her and Jennifer Lopez’s lyrical masterpiece “Booty”  
Ub Iwerks - co-designer of Mickey Mouse  
Isaac Asimov - his mystery series that often gets overlooked in favor of his sci-fi work

Holding 3 DQs while I ponder some more

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/42 "2022-09-07T15:22:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did a dog arrest you for throwing bricks at a cat?
> > 2. Are you mentioned in the title of a cantata by P. D. Q. Bach?
> > 3. On a cartoon series did the character you voice die after being set on fire, impaled, mauled by a mountain lion, shot, and ripped apart by a bear?
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> Not Ignatz, dunno and dunno.

#1 is correct.  
#2: the work in question is _Iphegenia in Brooklyn_.  
#3 was Isaac Hayes, who was the voice of Chef on _South Park_.

DQ: From a work of horror fiction?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/43 "2022-09-07T16:21:47Z")

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I.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with I
4. would not be alive today, if real
5. did not originally appear in prose fiction
6. first was mentioned on screen (TV or movie)
7. originally from a movie
8. not the protagonist
9. American character
10. first appeared after 1960
11. mentioned earlier, but first appeared after 1990
12. did appear in more than movie
13. played by American
14. genre movie (sf, Western, war movie, &c.)
15. kinda sorta an antagonist
16. set in the contemporary present
17. unusual first name
18. did not appear in more than one movie
19. from a work of fiction with horror elements

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/44 "2022-09-07T17:25:30Z")

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DQ: Human?

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I.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with I
4. would not be alive today, if real
5. did not originally appear in prose fiction
6. first was mentioned on screen (TV or movie)
7. originally from a movie
8. not the protagonist
9. American character
10. first appeared after 1960
11. mentioned earlier, but first appeared after 1990
12. did appear in more than movie
13. played by American
14. genre movie (sf, Western, war movie, &c.)
15. kinda sorta an antagonist
16. set in the contemporary present
17. unusual first name
18. did not appear in more than one movie
19. from a work of fiction with horror elements
20. human

No more IQs, please, and ask all earned DQs by 3pm EST tomorrow.

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Oh, I’ve got 20 minutes…

DQ1: From a horror-comedy (i.e. something along the lines of Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Shaun of the Dead)?  
DQ2: First actually appeared (not just mentioned) before 1995?  
DQ3: Has supernatural abilities/powers?

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/47 "2022-09-08T22:00:00Z")

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I.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with I
4. would not be alive today, if real
5. did not originally appear in prose fiction
6. first was mentioned on screen (TV or movie)
7. originally from a movie
8. not the protagonist
9. American character
10. first appeared after 1960
11. mentioned earlier, but first appeared after 1990
12. did appear in more than movie
13. played by American
14. genre movie (sf, Western, war movie, &c.)
15. kinda sorta an antagonist
16. set in the contemporary present
17. unusual first name
18. did not appear in more than one movie
19. from a work of fiction with horror elements
20. originally human
21. from a horror-comedy (i.e. something along the lines of Ghostbusters, Gremlins, Shaun of the Dead)
22. did not first actually appear (not just mentioned) before 1995
23. has supernatural abilities/powers

Q20 revised, upon further research.

A word of caution: not all of these characteristics were revealed in the movie.

Tawk amongst yourselves, and ask all earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EST Saturday, please.

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Mentioned before 1990, but does not appear until 1995 at the earliest…  
One movie, but other appearances. TV series? Video game? Comics?

“Originally human” implies not human at some point. Vampire? Zombie? Werewolf?  
#16 and #4 combined could imply dies in-story. Or maybe becomes undead.

Horror-comedies from that time frame…  
Evil Dead? The first movie is straight-up horror, but the other two lean more towards comedy. Original trilogy was pre-1995, but the TV series is within the last decade. Can’t think of an I character (or anyone’s name besides Ash)  
Return of the Living Dead? Some of the sequels were post-1995  
Beetlejuice? Had an animated spin-off and some video games, but I think all were pre-1995.

Still thinking…

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_Ghost_ also seems a likely candidate for “originally human”.  
I haven’t come up with anything yet.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/50 "2022-09-10T12:45:33Z")

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Still nothin’.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/51 "2022-09-10T18:40:40Z")

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Time’s up, and I am

# Ivo Shandor

The Gozer-worshipping architect who designed the weird Manhattan apartment building featured in the original _Ghostbusters_. **CFOHG** was close.

Prominently mentioned but unseen in that movie, he later appeared in other iterations of the franchise.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/52 "2022-09-10T18:49:32Z")

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Yep, good one, EH!

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/53 "2022-09-10T20:01:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Ivo Shandor

Good one! I’d ruled out Ghostbusters early on… The first two movies came out before 1990, and I was under the impression the 2016 reboot didn’t share any continuity. I had completely forgotten about Afterlife (still haven’t gotten around to seeing it). Wikipedia says he also was in the video game that was sort-of considered to be Ghostbusters III.

Again, good stumper.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/54 "2022-09-12T02:12:10Z")

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Thanks! Our next letter is

# W

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/55 "2022-09-12T15:16:38Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you Nathan Fillion’s upcoming character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
2. Did you write _One World_?
3. Did you write and direct _Shadows and Fog_?

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IQ1: Were you an 80s alternative band’s singer and primary songwriter who was name checked in the cult film _Heathers_?  
IQ2: Were you one of several Vorta clones?  
IQ3: Are you best known for your photographs of Weimaraners?

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/57 "2022-09-12T20:58:19Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you Nathan Fillion’s upcoming character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
> 2. Did you write _One World_?
> 3. Did you write and direct _Shadows and Fog_?

Not Wolverine, dunno and dunno

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Were you an 80s alternative band’s singer and primary songwriter who was name checked in the cult film _Heathers_?  
> IQ2: Were you one of several Vorta clones?  
> IQ3: Are you best known for your photographs of Weimaraners?

Not Tina Weymouth, the delightfully unctuous Weyoun or William Wegman

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/58 "2022-09-12T21:40:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > IQ1: Were you an 80s alternative band’s singer and primary songwriter who was name checked in the cult film _Heathers_?  
> > IQ2: Were you one of several Vorta clones?  
> > IQ3: Are you best known for your photographs of Weimaraners?
> 
> Not Tina Weymouth, the delightfully unctuous Weyoun or William Wegman

Paul Westerberg of The Replacements. _Heathers_ was set at Westerberg High.  
Correct  
Correct

DQ: Real?

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/59 "2022-09-12T21:41:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Are you Nathan Fillion’s upcoming character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
> > 2. Did you write _One World_?
> > 3. Did you write and direct _Shadows and Fog_?
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> Not Wolverine, dunno and dunno

#1 is Simon Williams, aka Wonder Man.  
#2 was Wendell L. Willkie.  
#3 was Woody Allen.

DQs:

1. Male?
2. Last name starts with W?

One DQ reserved.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/60 "2022-09-12T22:10:50Z")

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IQ1: Were you the Phantom of the Paradise?  
IQ2: Did you portray #1?  
IQ3: Did you portray Swan, #1’s nemesis?

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