# Botticelli, Sept. 2022

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 1, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748 "2022-09-01T17:46:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/121 "2022-09-20T13:35:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you Moonbase Alpha’s top doctor?  
> Did you play both the Queen Mum and her younger daughter?  
> Did Julian Sands’s character keep you captive for his own twisted ends?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/122 "2022-09-20T16:46:30Z")

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Dr. Helena Russell, Helena Bonham Carter (in _The King’s Speech_ and _The Crown_) and the title character of _Boxing Helena_.

Helena x3!

Just a reminder that we have, in previous rounds, considered royalty to be inherently political/military.

DQs:

Best known for a single incident?  
Born in or east of Vienna?  
Born in or north of Vienna?

IQs:

Were you a European woman, known by one personal name and a German place name, whose personal name ended in “d”?  
Was Brian Cox the first actor to play you on screen, in a Michael Mann-directed movie?  
Were you the ancient Carthaginian general who shared a name with that character?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/123 "2022-09-20T18:02:17Z")

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# DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Dead
4. Died before 1900
5. First name starts with H (and usually known only by her first name)
6. Died before 1500
7. Not from Classical Antiquity (pre-7th Century A.D.)
8. European
9. Not British
10. Not political/military
11. Famous husband
12. Not best known for a single incident
13. Exact place of birth unknown, but French

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/124 "2022-09-20T18:03:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a European woman, known by one personal name and a German place name, whose personal name ended in “d”?  
> Was Brian Cox the first actor to play you on screen, in a Michael Mann-directed movie?  
> Were you the ancient Carthaginian general who shared a name with that character?

#1. Take a DQ.  
#2. I am not Hannibal Lecter.  
#3. I am not that Hannibal either.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/125 "2022-09-20T19:08:11Z")

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IQ1: Do you write a syndicated hints column that bears your name?  
IQ2: Did you play the lead on the sitcom _Taxi_?  
IQ3: Were you forced to wear the first letter of the alphabet on your clothes?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/126 "2022-09-20T21:23:11Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a European woman, known by one personal name and a German place name, whose personal name ended in “d”? - Hildegard of Bingen  
Was Brian Cox the first actor to play you on screen, in a Michael Mann-directed movie? - Very close, but the character’s last name was spelled Lecktor, not Lecter (for copyright reasons, I believe)  
Were you the ancient Carthaginian general who shared a name with that character? - Yes, the earlier Hannibal

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Were you appointed to SCOTUS by Coolidge, a Republican, and then named Chief Justice of the United States by FDR, a Democrat?  
Were you the noted dissenter in _Plessy v. Ferguson_?  
Have you been played in TV ads in recent years by several different actors, including Darrell Hammond and George Hamilton (both also H’s)?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/127 "2022-09-20T22:50:18Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Do you write a syndicated hints column that bears your name?  
> IQ2: Did you play the lead on the sitcom _Taxi_?  
> IQ3: Were you forced to wear the first letter of the alphabet on your clothes?

1. I am not the columnist Heloise.
2. I am not Judd Hirsch.
3. I am not Hester Prynne.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you appointed to SCOTUS by Coolidge, a Republican, and then named Chief Justice of the United States by FDR, a Democrat?  
> Were you the noted dissenter in _Plessy v. Ferguson_?  
> Have you been played in TV ads in recent years by several different actors, including Darrell Hammond and George Hamilton (both also H’s)?

1. I am not Hughes (??)  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/128 "2022-09-21T16:29:48Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you appointed to SCOTUS by Coolidge, a Republican, and then named Chief Justice of the United States by FDR, a Democrat? - Justice Harlan Fiske Stone  
Were you the noted dissenter in _Plessy v. Ferguson_? - Justice John Marshall Harlan  
Have you been played in TV ads in recent years by several different actors, including Darrell Hammond and George Hamilton (both also H’s)? - Col. Harland Sanders of KFC

Harlan(d) x3!

DQs:

Best known for the Arts?  
Commonly associated with Paris?

Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/129 "2022-09-21T18:19:40Z")

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# DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Dead
4. Died before 1900
5. First name starts with H (and usually known only by her first name)
6. Died before 1500
7. Not from Classical Antiquity (pre-7th Century A.D.)
8. European
9. Not British
10. Not political/military
11. Famous husband
12. Not best known for a single incident
13. Known for the arts
14. Associated with Paris and the surrounding area

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/130 "2022-09-23T02:26:32Z")

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IQs:

Did you ask Aubrey for the salt?  
Did Jimmy Carter flub your name in praising you in a DNC speech?  
Did Gregory Peck play you in a single historical drama?

Two DQs still reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/131 "2022-09-23T12:39:19Z")

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#2. I am not Hubert Humphrey. (??)  
#3. I am not Henry Clay. (??)  
Take a DQ for #1 anyway.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/132 "2022-09-23T16:13:41Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you ask Aubrey for the salt? - Lord Horatio Nelson, in the works of Patrick O’Brian  
Did Jimmy Carter flub your name in praising you in a DNC speech? - Yes, Hubert Horatio Hornblower… er, Humphrey!  
Did Gregory Peck play you in a single historical drama? - Horatio Hornblower, the original

Horatio x3!

DQs:

An artist herself?  
Royalty or aristocracy?

Two DQs still reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/133 "2022-09-23T17:11:19Z")

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# DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Dead
4. Died before 1900
5. First name starts with H (and usually known only by her first name)
6. Died before 1500
7. Not from Classical Antiquity (pre-7th Century A.D.)
8. European
9. Not British
10. Not political/military
11. Famous husband
12. Not best known for a single incident
13. Known for the arts
14. Associated with Paris and the surrounding area
15. Known for her writing and her husband’s
16. Not royalty or aristocracy

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/134 "2022-09-23T17:45:49Z")

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Hmmm. I can’t think of anyone who fits these clues. I yield my two earned DQs, one per person, to whoever would like to ask them.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/135 "2022-09-23T21:01:54Z")

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Where’d SCA and kitap go?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/136 "2022-09-23T21:21:42Z")

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I’m gonna have to recuse myself. While confirming some info for an IQ, I stumbled across what I’m almost certain is the answer. It was in the disambiguation page in Wikipedia for what I was checking on.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/137 "2022-09-24T00:53:15Z")

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Thanks for letting us know, **CFOHG**. Our rule, as I understood it, is that no one may do any research except the Gamemaster, and then only to confirm that an answer he or she is about to give is correct.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/138 "2022-09-24T12:24:41Z")

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That’s the way we’ve always played it. Sorry.

EH, it looks as though you’re alone playing this round.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/139 "2022-09-25T01:23:01Z")

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Here I am! Sorry got caught up in work and my last (!) chemo.

1. Were you involved with a guy named Abelard?
2. Did Dwight Schultz play you on **The A-Team**?
3. Did Rosalind Russell play you in **His Girl Friday**?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2022/970748/140 "2022-09-25T02:47:55Z")

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Glad to hear it’s your last one. Hope all goes well for you from here on out.  
Oh, and by the way…

Yes, I am

# Heloise!

Very nicely done, **kitap**!

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