# Botticelli - Sept. 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 6, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843 "2024-09-06T03:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/181 "2024-09-25T01:48:19Z")
# O DQs: 1. Fictional. 2. First name starts with O. 3. Created before 1950. 4. Male. 5. Originally from prose fiction. 6. Created after 1800. 7. Not American. 8. A protagonist, but not the main viewpoint character. 9. From genre fiction. 10. Created after 1900. 11. Appeared once in media. 12. Part of a group of companions. 13. From a series of stories connected by author and genre(s), but otherwise unrelated. 14. From printed media. (See question 5, is there a distinction between the two being made here?) 15. Not European. 16. Surname begins A-M. 17. I am human. 18. I have never appeared in a movie. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/182 "2024-09-25T04:22:56Z")
Previous IQs: Did two of your early hits feature a very deep bass backup singer? - Yes, Olivia Newton-John, in “If You Love Me (Let Me Know)” and “Let Me Be There” Did you refuse to obey segregation laws in your native New Orleans (maybe the only good thing you ever did)? - Lee Harvey Oswald Did you boss around your tailors, the Fanucci brothers? - The title character in the Mob comedy _Oscar,_ played by Sylvester Stallone DQs: Asian character? From sf? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/183 "2024-09-25T05:54:39Z")
# O DQs: 1. Fictional. 2. First name starts with O. 3. Created before 1950. 4. Male. 5. Originally from prose fiction. 6. Created after 1800. 7. Not American. 8. A protagonist, but not the main viewpoint character. 9. From genre fiction. 10. Created after 1900. 11. Appeared once in media. 12. Part of a group of companions. 13. From a series of stories connected by author and genre(s), but otherwise unrelated. 14. From printed media. (See question 5, is there a distinction between the two being made here?) 15. Not European. 16. Surname begins A-M. 17. I am human. 18. I have never appeared in a movie. 19. Not Asian. 20. From science fiction. I think there’s one DQ left - try to make it count by 9 p.m. EDT tomorrow, 25 Sept. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/184 "2024-09-25T08:40:27Z")
DQs: 1. Created before 1920? 2. Asian? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/185 "2024-09-25T13:18:56Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Was your partner always getting you into fine messes? > > 2. Were you assassinated in 1928, before you could begin your second term as President of Mexico? > > 3. Are you the current President of Mexico? > > I am not Oliver Hardy. > Take a DQ. > I am not Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. > > TIL that Mexico’s Presidency hasn’t always been term-limited to a single six-year term. Correct on Hardy and Lopez Obrador. 2. was Álvaro Obregón Salido, a Mexican Revolution general who was president from 1920 to 1924, then re-elected in 1928, but assassinated before he could take office. DQ: Created after 1980? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/186 "2024-09-25T16:07:28Z")
# O DQs: 1. Fictional. 2. First name starts with O. 3. Created before 1950. 4. Male. 5. Originally from prose fiction. 6. Created after 1800. 7. Not American. 8. A protagonist, but not the main viewpoint character. 9. From genre fiction. 10. Created after 1900. 11. Appeared once in media. 12. Part of a group of companions. 13. From a series of stories connected by author and genre(s), but otherwise unrelated. 14. From printed media. (See question 5, is there a distinction between the two being made here?) 15. Not European. 16. Surname begins A-M. 17. I am human. 18. I have never appeared in a movie. 19. Not Asian. 20. From science fiction. 21. Created after 1920. We already have “not Asian” and “Created before 1950” so @kitap and @Slow_Moving_Vehicle still have another DQ each. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/187 "2024-09-25T22:26:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did you boss around your tailors, the Fanucci brothers? - The title character in the Mob comedy _Oscar,_ played by Sylvester Stallone Nitpick: That was Snaps Provolone. Oscar was the man who appeared at the very end of the movie, interrupting the wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/188 "2024-09-25T23:49:07Z")
Ah, thanks. It’s been years. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/189 "2024-09-26T14:47:04Z")
I guess it’s time for the “Are you Firstname Lastname” questions, though I would still accept the final DQs from @kitap and @Slow_Moving_Vehicle . Let’s try and wrap it up by midnight EDT tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/190 "2024-09-26T15:09:26Z")
Not ringing any bells for me. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/191 "2024-09-26T16:56:15Z")
Okay, last DQ: Surname begins A - G? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/192 "2024-09-26T17:29:09Z")
# O DQs: 1. Fictional. 2. First name starts with O. 3. Created before 1950. 4. Male. 5. Originally from prose fiction. 6. Created after 1800. 7. Not American. 8. A protagonist, but not the main viewpoint character. 9. From genre fiction. 10. Created after 1900. 11. Appeared once in media. 12. Part of a group of companions. 13. From a series of stories connected by author and genre(s), but otherwise unrelated. 14. From printed media. (See question 5, is there a distinction between the two being made here?) 15. Not European. 16. Surname begins A-M. 17. I am human. 18. I have never appeared in a movie. 19. Not Asian. 20. From science fiction. 21. Created after 1920. 22. Surname begins with H-M. This ended up being a lot tougher than I thought it would be. I suppose I should note that my answer to #14 is best expressed as “in a codex-format book, not a comic book” in case there was any confusion. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/193 "2024-09-26T20:41:46Z")
Well, _I_ certainly have no idea who this is. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/194 "2024-09-26T20:54:55Z")
Let’s think: A male semi-protagonist from an SF story of the 20s, 30s or 40s. Appeared once in media, but not in a movie (which could be TV, radio or theater). First name O, last name H-M. We don’t know the origin of the Author, but the character’s African, Australian, Oceanic or from a SF country. One of a group of characters. May be from a novel, a short story, or one of John Campbell’s magazines. Notable SF authors of the period are H. G. Wells, E. E. Doc Smith, Asimov, Heinlein, Ray Bradbury, Edgar Rice Burroughs, C. S. Lewis, H. P. Lovecraft, and on and on. I’ll probably kick myself when the name’s revealed. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/195 "2024-09-26T23:45:54Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > character’s African, Australian, Oceanic or from a SF country. Or Canadian, Mexican, from Central or South America, or from the Caribbean. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/196 "2024-09-27T00:24:36Z")
I’m drawing a blank. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/197 "2024-09-27T00:26:04Z")
I’ll offer one other clue: just because someone is human does not mean they are from Earth. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/198 "2024-09-27T02:04:31Z")
Okay, last DQ: author is,male? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/199 "2024-09-27T02:27:14Z")
# O DQs: 1. Fictional. 2. First name starts with O. 3. Created before 1950. 4. Male. 5. Originally from prose fiction. 6. Created after 1800. 7. Not American. 8. A protagonist, but not the main viewpoint character. 9. From genre fiction. 10. Created after 1900. 11. Appeared once in media. 12. Part of a group of companions. 13. From a series of stories connected by author and genre(s), but otherwise unrelated. 14. From printed media. (See question 5, is there a distinction between the two being made here?) 15. Not European. 16. Surname begins A-M. 17. I am human. 18. I have never appeared in a movie. 19. Not Asian. 20. From science fiction. 21. Created after 1920. 22. Surname begins with H-M. 23. Author is male. I may have inadvertently created a red herring. #11, appeared once in media - I took this to mean appeared only once in prose fiction, which I see from @Prof.Pepperwinkle was the wrong way to take that DQ. So, to be clear - character is in a book, has not appeared in any other performing or written art media, no comic books, dramatic portrayal, or any such thing. (My bad for incorrectly apprehending the question.) Also - I’ll be out of town and out of reach from early tomorrow to mid-Saturday, so if I go radio silent for a bit, preparations may have consumed what time I have. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/200 "2024-09-27T02:45:04Z")
I posed the question (#11) with the intent to establish that the character was not part of a franchise or series, e.g., James Bond, but a single novel or movie, e.g., Jay Gatsby. “Media” is a blanket term to include all forms of communication: book, movie, play, television, painting, music, poetry, oral history, etc. There is probably a better way of succinctly expressing this. In the future, I may ask “Are you from a book?” “Is this part of a series or franchise?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843.md?page=11)