# Botticelli - Sept. 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 6, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843 "2024-09-06T03:00:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/201 "2024-09-28T19:47:32Z")

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I was thinking maybe from _The Martian Chronicles_, but I’m not coming up with an O name.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/202 "2024-09-28T23:11:38Z")

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I was thinking of Burrough’s Barsoom series, with same results.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/203 "2024-09-29T00:32:35Z")

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All right, here we go. Having seen no correct answers, I am

# Oscar Jensen

Venus colonial, member of the Space Patrol, Passed Cadet, and final commander of the PRS _Astarte_, the original manned Venus exploration ship, and primary character (along with viewpoint character Matt Dodson, “Tex” Jarman, and Ganymedean Pierre “Pete” Armand) in Robert A. Heinlein’s 1948 juvenile novel _Space Cadet_.

I await your judgment on suitability.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/204 "2024-09-29T03:02:13Z")

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Yes, I’ve read the book several times and recognize the character name, although I wouldn’t have remembered it in a million, well, maybe half a million years. Good one, **SunUp**!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/205 "2024-09-29T03:17:09Z")

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I’ve read the book several times, but don’t remember any of the characters’ names. Obviously time to read it again.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/206 "2024-09-29T03:22:42Z")

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Other than the unfortunate lack of female cadets, and how wrong it is about conditions on the surface of Venus, I’d say it holds up pretty well.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/207 "2024-09-29T05:06:18Z")

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Read it 45 or so yers ago, but don’t remember.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/208 "2024-09-29T12:57:17Z")

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Is that the one with the “dragon” who goes by the name Sir Isaac Newton? And/or starts out with the main character getting a phone call whilst out riding his horse? I also seem to recall that he thinks the beds at the academy aren’t as comfortable as the “hydraulic bed” he has at home.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/209 "2024-09-29T14:51:55Z")

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Good choice, **SunUp!!** I don’t remember ever reading that one.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/210 "2024-09-29T14:56:39Z")

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You’re thinking of _Between Planets_, set largely on Venus, where the main character, Don Harvey, is caught up in an interplanetary war where colonies on Venus and Mars rebel against a tyrannical government on Earth.

I almost think that _Between Planets_ could have been set in the same universe as _Space Cadet_, had the “Revolt of the Colonels” in the latter book succeeded rather than failed. (It’s detailed in the short story “The Long Watch”, but retconned into his Future History rather than in the _Space Cadet_ universe.)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/211 "2024-09-29T18:25:38Z")

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Well, I’ve never read any of Heinlein’s YA stuff, so I’d never have gotten that (I was racking my brain for an “O” character from Lewis’s space trilogy). But he clearly meets the criteria for notability, so well done, **SunUp**!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/212 "2024-09-30T02:19:33Z")

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Agreed!

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/213 "2024-09-30T02:26:01Z")

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All right, well, let’s get the next round underway.

I am

# M

Bring on the IQs!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/214 "2024-09-30T13:48:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Larry Hagman’s mom?
2. Were you the mother of one of the group Wilson Phillips?
3. Do “I love the dear silver that shines in your hair”?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/215 "2024-09-30T14:35:31Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did the TV show you created begin its 50th season last Saturday night?  
2. Do you play a telepathic telekinetic with a liking for frozen waffles?  
3. Yo, were you the 13th president of the United States?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/216 "2024-09-30T14:36:34Z")

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Nicely done, @SunUp!

IQs:

1. Were your parents in a band called “The Daddy Warbucks”?
2. Are you part of the Winslow family?
3. Were you originally written as a man but later portrayed by a woman?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/217 "2024-09-30T14:55:11Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you Larry Hagman’s mom?
> 2. Were you the mother of one of the group Wilson Phillips?
> 3. Do “I love the dear silver that shines in your hair”?

Take a DQ.  
I am not… Mama Cass Elliot?  
Take a DQ.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did the TV show you created begin its 50th season last Saturday night?
> 2. Do you play a telepathic telekinetic with a liking for frozen waffles?
> 3. Yo, were you the 13th president of the United States?

I am not Lorne Michaels.  
I am not Millie Bobby Brown.  
I am not Millard Filmore.

> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were your parents in a band called “The Daddy Warbucks”?
> 2. Are you part of the Winslow family?
> 3. Were you originally written as a man but later portrayed by a woman?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/218 "2024-09-30T15:04:47Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> I am not Lorne Michaels.  
> I am not Millie Bobby Brown.  
> I am not Millard Filmore.

A clean sweep!

IQs:  
1. Did you have “binders full of women”?  
2. Did you “fly like paper, get high like planes”?  
3. Are your notebooks still radioactive?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/219 "2024-09-30T15:09:27Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were your parents in a band called “The Daddy Warbucks”?
> > 2. Are you part of the Winslow family?
> > 3. Were you originally written as a man but later portrayed by a woman?
> 
> Take 3 DQs.

1. Marshall Mathers
2. Marmaduke
3. M, boss of James Bond

DQs:

1. Are you human?
2. Are you male?
3. Created before 1950?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/220 "2024-09-30T15:11:40Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you Larry Hagman’s mom?
> > 2. Were you the mother of one of the group Wilson Phillips?
> > 3. Do “I love the dear silver that shines in your hair”?
> 
> Take a DQ.  
> I am not… Mama Cass Elliot?  
> Take a DQ.

#1 was Mary Martin.  
#2. You were so close, right band, but Michelle Phillips.  
#3. is Mother Machree.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Last name starts with M?

1 DQ reserved.

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