# Botticelli - Sept. 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 6, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843 "2024-09-06T03:00:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/21 "2024-09-07T04:36:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were you the only woman on Country Music Televisions list of “Top Ten Outlaw Singers”?
> > 2. Are you a somewhat unusual sexual assault survivor and activist for the MeToo movement?
> > 3. Just because it’s been a minute since his name’s come up, did you have the most awkward name in Middle Earth? (That one’s just for you, **EH** 😁)
> 
> Not Tanya Tucker, dunno, and not (thanks for that, **SMV** ) Teleporno AKA Celeborn!

Correct on Tanya and Teleporno. 2 was actor and former NFL linebacker Terry Crews, who has been open about being groped by a influential producer at a Hollywood party.

DQ: created in the 20th century?

IQs:

1. Were you a Civil War general, who, when asked by a subordinate in the aftermath of a battle if the dead should be sorted and buried by their home states, thought for a moment and replied, “No, mix 'em up, mix 'em up: I am tired of this state’s rights business.”
2. Were you a poet whose best-known quotation translates to “I am human; therefore nothing human can be alien to me.”?
3. Does a famous allegorical drawing show the Buddha, Confucius, and you tasting water from a well, Confucius finding it sour, the Buddha bitter, and you sweet?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/22 "2024-09-07T05:16:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you and your husband record a song written by John Fogarty?
> > 2. Did you fight zombies with Little Rock?
> > 3. Were you a backup to Jalen Hurts in college?
> 
> Dunno, not Tallahassee in _Zombieland_ and dunno.

Ike & **Tina Turner** recorded CCR’s “Proud Mary”; correct; the current NFL quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, **Tua Tagovailoa,** backed up Jalen Hurts while attending University of Alabama

DQs:

1. Created before 1920?
2. Appeared in more than one book?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/23 "2024-09-07T07:42:48Z")

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IQ:

1. Did you think that David and Goliath were Jesus’s first two disciples?
2. Were you known for your colorful Washington Post Sports columns about the Red Skins?
3. Are you the culinary wizard of the Adventure zone podcast?

DQ:  
Main protagonist?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/24 "2024-09-07T15:33:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you write the 12-volume _A Study of History_?
> > 2. Were you the Herd Godfather of a musk ox farm in Alaska?
> > 3. Did your celebrity husband pass away within the last month?
> 
> Not Tacitus, dunno and dunno.

#1 was Arnold Toynbee.  
#2 was Alex Trebek.  
#3 is Marlo Thomas, widow of Phil Donahue.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/25 "2024-09-07T18:33:05Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you famously fall in love with a ghost named Marion Kerby?
> 2. Were you trying to Escape to Witch Mountain?
> 3. Were you #2’s sibling, who was also trying to Escape?

Cosmo Topper, Tony and Tia.

DQ:

1. From a genre?

4 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/26 "2024-09-07T18:52:22Z")

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IQ1: Were you born in your father’s cabin on the coast of Angola?  
IQ2: Were you the older son of Vespasian?  
IQ3: Were you Hadrian’s best-known cousin?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/27 "2024-09-08T02:26:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were you a New York Giant first baseman who was the last National Leaguer to hit .400 in a season?
> > 2. Did you organize the Credit Mobilier, thus being at the center of one of the biggest political corruption scandals in U.S. history?
> > 3. Are you a Trollop who hangs around with a Klahd and a Pervect?
> 
> Dunno and dunno (although I’m sure I’ll recognize the names when I read 'em), and not Toni Trollope.

Bill Terry, Thomas Durant, and Tananda, the brother of Chumley, from Robert Asprin’s _Myth_ books.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/28 "2024-09-08T02:27:33Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> …  
> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a Civil War general, who, when asked by a subordinate in the aftermath of a battle if the dead should be sorted and buried by their home states, thought for a moment and replied, “No, mix 'em up, mix 'em up: I am tired of this state’s rights business.”
> 2. Were you a poet whose best-known quotation translates to “I am human; therefore nothing human can be alien to me.”?
> 3. Does a famous allegorical drawing show the Buddha, Confucius, and you tasting water from a well, Confucius finding it sour, the Buddha bitter, and you sweet?

Still not the great George H. Thomas, dunno (although I know that quotation) and not Tao.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> 1. Did you think that David and Goliath were Jesus’s first two disciples?
> 2. Were you known for your colorful Washington Post Sports columns about the Red Skins?
> 3. Are you the culinary wizard of the Adventure zone podcast?  
> …

Dunno x3.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you born in your father’s cabin on the coast of Angola?  
> IQ2: Were you the older son of Vespasian?  
> IQ3: Were you Hadrian’s best-known cousin?

Dunno, not Tiberius and not Tiberius (I _think_ it’s one of 'em).

T.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with T
4. originally from prose fiction
5. American creator(s)
6. created in the 20th century
7. created after 1920
8. did not appear in more than one book
9. not main protagonist
10. not from what I would consider a genre, but YMMV

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/29 "2024-09-08T03:08:28Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> - Did you think that David and Goliath were Jesus’s first two disciples?
> - Were you known for your colorful Washington Post Sports columns about the Red Skins?
> - Are you the culinary wizard of the Adventure zone podcast?

1 Tom Sawyer from one of my favorite [scenes](https://americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/tom-sawyer-chapter-4_0.pdf) of the book.  
2. [Tony Kornheiser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kornheiser)  
3. [Taako](https://theadventurezone.fandom.com/wiki/Taako) (pronounced Taco)

DQ:  
written after 1970?  
Character is an adult human?

1DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/30 "2024-09-08T17:01:22Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you survive a global pandemic and relocate to Boulder, CO?
2. Did you attend your prom with an outcast girl?
3. Are you the best friend of someone who may or may not be a murderous psychopath?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/31 "2024-09-08T18:19:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you a Civil War general, who, when asked by a subordinate in the aftermath of a battle if the dead should be sorted and buried by their home states, thought for a moment and replied, “No, mix 'em up, mix 'em up: I am tired of this state’s rights business.”
> > 2. Were you a poet whose best-known quotation translates to “I am human; therefore nothing human can be alien to me.”?
> > 3. Does a famous allegorical drawing show the Buddha, Confucius, and you tasting water from a well, Confucius finding it sour, the Buddha bitter, and you sweet?
> 
> Still not the great George H. Thomas, dunno (although I know that quotation) and not Tao.

Figured you’d get George Thomas. 2. is the Roman poet known in English as Terance. 3. I’ll give to you, because it is the supposed founder of Taoism and author of the _Tao Te Ching_; but his name was Lao Tze.

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/32 "2024-09-09T02:42:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > IQ1: Were you born in your father’s cabin on the coast of Angola?  
> > IQ2: Were you the older son of Vespasian?  
> > IQ3: Were you Hadrian’s best-known cousin?
> 
> Dunno, not Tiberius and not Tiberius (I _think_ it’s one of 'em).

John Clayton, Viscount Greystoke – AKA Tarzan  
Titus  
Trajan

DQ1: Still alive when last seen/heard from?  
DQ2: Could be alive today, if real?  
DQ3: Book was filmed for movie or TV?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/33 "2024-09-09T02:46:17Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you survive a global pandemic and relocate to Boulder, CO?
> 2. Did you attend your prom with an outcast girl?
> 3. Are you the best friend of someone who may or may not be a murderous psychopath?

Dunno, not John Travolta and dunno.

T.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with T
4. originally from prose fiction
5. American creator(s)
6. created in the 20th century
7. created after 1920
8. did not appear in more than one book
9. not main protagonist
10. not from what I would consider a genre, but YMMV
11. written before 1970
12. character is an adult human
13. probably still alive when last seen/heard from
14. wouldn’t be alive today, if real
15. book was filmed for movie or TV

With the reserved DQs, that will get us to 20. No more IQs, please.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/34 "2024-09-09T03:10:00Z")

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Is it okay to post DQs that are in the form of “Are you X?” or do you have to have a reserved IQ/DQ question? Could I suggest posting the rules (or link to) at the top of each new month thread?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/35 "2024-09-09T03:45:02Z")

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DQs:

1.Caucasian?  
2. Award-winning work?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/36 "2024-09-09T08:43:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you survive a global pandemic and relocate to Boulder, CO?
> > 2. Did you attend your prom with an outcast girl?
> > 3. Are you the best friend of someone who may or may not be a murderous psychopath?
> 
> Dunno, not John Travolta and dunno.

1. **Tom Cullen** , _The Stand_ by Stephen King
2. **Tommy Ross** , _Carrie_ also by King (William Katt played him in the 1976 movie; John Travolta played bad boy Billy Nolan)
3. **Timothy Price** , _American Psycho_ by Bret Easton Ellis

DQ: Are you a sidekick?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/37 "2024-09-09T14:16:28Z")

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> [@Botticelli General Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/24):
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> I’m sidin’ with EH on this one.

Above, the General Questions thread, including the rules of the game.

Welcome to the game, **Zakalwe**! You do need to have a reserved DQ question to ask “Are you X?”. However, I have three DQs, so you can have one of mine for your guess.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/38 "2024-09-10T02:02:53Z")

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T.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with T
4. originally from prose fiction
5. American creator(s)
6. created in the 20th century
7. created after 1920
8. did not appear in more than one book
9. not main protagonist
10. not from what I would consider a genre, but YMMV
11. written before 1970
12. character is an adult human
13. probably still alive when last seen/heard from
14. wouldn’t be alive today, if real
15. book was filmed for movie or TV
16. likely Caucasian
17. not, as far as I can determine, an award-winning work
18. not a sidekick

Please ask all earned DQs by 5pm EST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/39 "2024-09-10T02:06:52Z")

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I have 2 “Are you X” questions; can I ask them now or just one at a time?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/40 "2024-09-10T02:11:14Z")

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I guess both at the same time, although we’ve never done that before.

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