# Botticelli - Sept. 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 6, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843 "2024-09-06T03:00:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/41 "2024-09-10T02:13:36Z")
Ooh, virgin territory. 1. Are you Tom Hagen? 2. Are you Tom Buchanan? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/42 "2024-09-10T02:15:29Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Welcome to the game, **Zakalwe**! You do need to have a reserved DQ question to ask “Are you X?”. However, I have three DQs, so you can have one of mine for your guess. Thanks for the offer, but the last two DQ responses invalidated my guess. So I’m glad I didn’t waste your DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/43 "2024-09-10T02:15:53Z")
> [@knoodler](#): > > Ooh, virgin territory. > > 1. Are you Tom Hagen? > 2. Are you Tom Buchanan? No and no, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/44 "2024-09-10T02:17:05Z")
OK, I gave it a shot. I hope I’m not slapping my head over your name, like I did with da judge. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/45 "2024-09-10T02:38:56Z")
DQ: Written before 1945? 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/46 "2024-09-10T02:43:11Z")
DQ: From a book set during WW2? One DQ reserved ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/47 "2024-09-10T14:53:30Z")
DQ: Antagonist? 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/48 "2024-09-10T18:39:21Z")
DQs: 1. From a movie? 2. Set in the same time period it first appeared in? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/49 "2024-09-10T20:10:35Z")
Remaining DQs: 1. Author of book has won major awards? 2. Set in the American West? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/50 "2024-09-10T21:36:58Z")
Sorry a tad late, DQ: 1. Was the derived movie/TV show made after 1980 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/51 "2024-09-10T22:37:10Z")
T. 1. fictional 2. male 3. first name starts with T 4. originally from prose fiction 5. American creator(s) 6. created in the 20th century 7. created after 1920 8. did not appear in more than one book 9. not main protagonist 10. not from what I would consider a genre, but YMMV 11. written before 1970 12. character is an adult human 13. probably still alive when last seen/heard from 14. wouldn’t be alive today, if real 15. book was filmed for movie or TV 16. likely Caucasian 17. not, as far as I can determine, an award-winning work 18. not a sidekick 19. written before 1945 20. not from a book set during WW2 21. not the, or an, antagonist 22. not originally from a movie 23. set roughly in the same time period it first appeared in 24. author of book did not win any major awards that I could find 25. not set in the American West 26. derived movie/TV show first made before 1980 Tawk amongst yourselves, and then ask any earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by 9pm EST tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/52 "2024-09-10T23:14:18Z")
No good ideas, but… DQ: Are you Ted Babbitt, son of George Babbitt in Sinclair Lewis’s _Babbitt_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/53 "2024-09-11T20:33:44Z")
I am not. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/54 "2024-09-12T03:36:44Z")
Yeah, I got nothing. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/55 "2024-09-12T06:40:09Z")
No ideas here. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/56 "2024-09-13T02:44:49Z")
OK, then. I am # Dr. T.J. Eckleburg The oculist (eye doctor) in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s _The Great Gatsby,_ whose eyes on the giant billboard overlooking the Valley of Ashes might symbolize several things: [The Eyes of Doctor T. J. Eckleburg Symbol in The Great Gatsby | LitCharts](https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-great-gatsby/symbols/the-eyes-of-doctor-t-j-eckleburg) ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/57 "2024-09-13T05:46:20Z")
Love the book but don’t remember him at all. But it’s also been 30 years. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/58 "2024-09-13T06:35:54Z")
IIRC, Eckleburg-the-oculist doesn’t really appear in the novel itself, but the billboard is mentioned several times. We had a guess for Tom Buchanan, so that was really close. Good round, **E\_H**! (And there I was cudgeling my brain for John Steinbeck characters…) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/59 "2024-09-13T14:05:18Z")
I haven’t read Gatsy in over 40 years, but I do remember the billboards, if not the specific name. Take it again, EH! You stumped us. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843/60 "2024-09-13T14:10:42Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > We had a guess for Tom Buchanan, so that was really close. Good round, **E\_H**! (And there I was cudgeling my brain for John Steinbeck characters…) That was me, and I’d forgotten about him until after poking around the web. Good job again, **E\_H**! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-sept-2024/1006843.md?page=4)