# Botticelli September 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 4, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171 "2011-09-04T16:52:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/341 "2011-09-17T01:34:35Z")

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Correct as to Sam[wise Gamgee].

IQ: Did your dad threaten to kill you unless you “voluntarily” left home forever?

IQ: Was your father an ambassador and your mother a teacher?

IQ: Did you win a major election in one edition of a political novel, but lose it in another?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/342 "2011-09-17T02:34:13Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you start playing drums as your active compensatory factor?

No, I am not Ringo Starr?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/343 "2011-09-17T02:37:34Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: Are you American?
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> DQ2: Does your last name start with “S”?
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> DQ3: Are you remembered for work in “the arts”?

No, yes, and yes, I think it less misleading to say I work in “the arts” than to say that I don’t.

1. Male
2. Real
3. Dead
4. Not born in 20th century
5. Not American
6. Last name begins with “S”
7. Broadly speaking, I work in the arts

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/344 "2011-09-17T02:42:10Z")

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Correct on Dave Stieb.

IQ: Are you the inventor of musical instruments who produced the first ‘Wagner Tuba’?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/345 "2011-09-17T02:44:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did your dad threaten to kill you unless you “voluntarily” left home forever?
> 
> IQ: Was your father an ambassador and your mother a teacher?
> 
> IQ: Did you win a major election in one edition of a political novel, but lose it in another?

No, I am not Tom Sawyer?

No, I am not Adlai Stevenson III?

No, I am not Willie Stark?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/346 "2011-09-17T02:50:00Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you the inventor of musical instruments who produced the first ‘Wagner Tuba’?

No, I am not JP Sousa?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/347 "2011-09-17T03:40:14Z")

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Did you write Top Ten hits for Johnny Cash, The Irish Rovers, and Dr. Hook?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/348 "2011-09-17T03:41:15Z")

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Did the Minnesota Vikings of the Seventies get their nickname from one of your songs?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/349 "2011-09-17T03:42:17Z")

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Did you write the story that ended up gaining Frederic March his first Oscar as Best Actor?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/350 "2011-09-17T03:50:12Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you write the story that ended up gaining Frederic March his first Oscar as Best Actor?

No, I am not Robert Louis Stevenson.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/351 "2011-09-17T03:51:16Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Did the Minnesota Vikings of the Seventies get their nickname from one of your songs?

I don’t remember (if I ever knew) who wrote Purple People Eater, but I will try…  
No, I am not Jim Steinman.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/352 "2011-09-17T03:52:20Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you write Top Ten hits for Johnny Cash, The Irish Rovers, and Dr. Hook?

No, I am not Jim Steinman.

Since we are on a new page:

1. Male
2. Real
3. Dead
4. Not born in 20th century
5. Not American
6. Last name begins with “S”
7. Broadly speaking, I work in the arts

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/353 "2011-09-17T04:12:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did your dad threaten to kill you unless you “voluntarily” left home forever?
> 
> IQ: Was your father an ambassador and your mother a teacher?
> 
> IQ: Did you win a major election in one edition of a political novel, but lose it in another?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> No, I am not Tom Sawyer?
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> No, I am not Adlai Stevenson III?
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> No, I am not Willie Stark?

Incorrect as to all three.

The first is Samwell Tarly in George R.R. Martin’s _A Game of Thrones_, who had to join the Night’s Watch or face his father’s murderous threats.

The second is Cmdr. Spock of the USS _Enterprise_.

The third is Simon Kerslake of Jeffrey Archer’s _First Among Equals_.

A Tory, Kerslake is elected Prime Minister in the American edition of the book, but loses to the Labour candidate in the British edition of the book. Archer made the change because he found his American and British friends rooting for different candidates.

IQ1: Born in the 19th century?

IQ2: European?

IQ3: A writer?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/354 "2011-09-17T04:52:03Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ1: Born in the 19th century?
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> IQ2: European?
> 
> IQ3: A writer?

Yes, yes, and no.

1. Male
2. Real
3. Dead
4. Not born in 20th century
5. Not American
6. Last name begins with “S”
7. Broadly speaking, I work in the arts
8. Born in the 19th century
9. European
10. Not a writer

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/355 "2011-09-17T07:15:33Z")

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Correct on Ringo Starr. That was a line from _A Hard Day’s Night_.

IQ: Were you Eddie Van Halen’s first choice to replace David Lee Roth as vocalist for Van Halen? (I’ll tell you now: Despite the ‘S’, the answer is \*\*not \*\*Sammy Hagar)

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/356 "2011-09-17T14:36:53Z")

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IQ: Were you David Lee Roth’s choice to replace Eddie Van Halen as guitarist?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/357 "2011-09-17T16:45:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà**  
> IQ: Are you the inventor of musical instruments who produced the first ‘Wagner Tuba’?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> No, I am not JP Sousa?

While John Phillip Sousa did design the Sousaphone (and I’ve no idea who he got to build them for him), the Wagner Tuba is a different instrument altogether. It is like a cross between a french horn and a euphonium, combining the disadvantages of each. No, the intrepid inventor/innovator/manufacturer of 19th century musical instruments was **Adolphe Sax** , who is most famous for the Saxophone, but who also designed and improved on countless instruments, including the bass clarinet and the flugelhorn. Wagner got him to build these unwieldy beasts in time for the composition of the Ring of the Niebelung cycle.

DQ: Were you involved in publishing? (I’m trying to solve this ‘Broadly speaking, I work in the arts’ conundrum…)

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/358 "2011-09-17T17:39:38Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Were you Eddie Van Halen’s first choice to replace David Lee Roth as vocalist for Van Halen? (I’ll tell you now: Despite the ‘S’, the answer is \*\*not \*\*Sammy Hagar)

No, I’m not Bob Seger?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/359 "2011-09-17T17:45:34Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Were you Eddie Van Halen’s first choice to replace David Lee Roth as vocalist for Van Halen? (I’ll tell you now: Despite the ‘S’, the answer is \*\*not \*\*Sammy Hagar)

No, I’m not Bob Seger?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/360 "2011-09-17T17:58:38Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Were you David Lee Roth’s choice to replace Eddie Van Halen as guitarist?

No, I am not Carlos Santana?

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