# Botticelli September 2011

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 4, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171 "2011-09-04T16:52:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/481 "2011-09-27T17:50:41Z")

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IQ: Did your love of insect collecting inspire a multimillion dollar business?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/482 "2011-09-27T20:04:50Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you once sue a musician for plagiarizing himself?

No, I’m not… Sting?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did your love of insect collecting inspire a multimillion dollar business?

Dunno this one. Take a DQ.

S.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Has appeared as a movie character
4. Not American
5. Appeared in another medium before debut as a movie character
6. Native speaker of English, as far as I know
7. First name starts with “S”
8. Creator not from the UK
9. Movie in which I appeared was set between 1900 and 2011

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/483 "2011-09-27T21:10:41Z")

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Were you the first superintendent of the college that eventually became Louisiana State University?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/484 "2011-09-27T22:04:25Z")

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IQ: Are you the mother of Caliban?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/485 "2011-09-27T22:05:55Z")

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IQ: Are you Cain’s younger brother?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/486 "2011-09-27T22:09:48Z")

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IQ: Are you described as an evil sorceror in the first part of Act I, only to be revealed as the benevolent victim of malicious lies by the end of Act I?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/487 "2011-09-28T00:48:40Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you once sue a musician for plagiarizing himself?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not… Sting?

You are not Saul Zantz, who sued John Fogerty for self-plagarism. Zantz claimed that Fogerty’s solo hit “The Old Man Down The Road” ripped off the Fogerty-penned CCR song “Run Through The Jungle”. Fantasy Records, which Zantz partially owned, held the copyright to the CCR catalog.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did your love of insect collecting inspire a multimillion dollar business?

You are not Satoshi Tajiri, creator of the original Pokemon video games. His childhood bug collecting hobby was one of his inspirations.

DQ 1: Did you originally appear in a novel?

DQ 2: Would the movie in which you appear be considered part of the science fiction/fantasy/horror family of genres?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/488 "2011-09-28T02:45:51Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Were you the first superintendent of the college that eventually became Louisiana State University?

No, I’m not William T. Sherman.

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you the mother of Caliban?

No, I’m not… Scipia?

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you Cain’s younger brother?

No, I’m not… Sampson? (I’m sure that’s wrong, but what the hell. I didn’t even know Cain _had_ a younger brother).

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you described as an evil sorceror in the first part of Act I, only to be revealed as the benevolent victim of malicious lies by the end of Act I?

Dunno. Ask a DQ.

S.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Has appeared as a movie character
4. Not American
5. Appeared in another medium before debut as a movie character
6. Native speaker of English, as far as I know
7. First name starts with “S”
8. Creator not from the UK
9. Movie in which I appeared was set between 1900 and 2011
10. Did not originally appear in a novel
11. Movie in which I appeared would IMHO generally not be considered part of the science fiction/fantasy/horror family of genres

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/489 "2011-09-28T03:40:13Z")

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Were you a high school teacher and football coach, while working as a pro wrestler on the side?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/490 "2011-09-28T03:42:00Z")

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Did you sing lead on the Sixties hit “She’s About a Mover”?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/491 "2011-09-28T03:42:30Z")

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> Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** IQ: Are you the mother of Caliban?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not… Scipia?

**Sycorax** is the witch who formerly inhabited Prospero’s island. She is mentioned by both Caliban, who claims ownership of the island through being her son, and by Prospero, who chastises Ariel by reminding him how he was imprisoned in the knotted entrails of a pine by Sycorax.

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> Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\*IQ: Are you Cain’s younger brother?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not… Sampson? (I’m sure that’s wrong, but what the hell. I didn’t even know Cain _had_ a younger brother).

Cain actually had two younger brothers - Abel, whom he slew and then **Seth** , who is born to Adam and Eve after the _incident_.

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> Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** IQ: Are you described as an evil sorceror in the first part of Act I, only to be revealed as the benevolent victim of malicious lies by the end of Act I?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno. Ask a DQ.

This is a reference to Mozart’s ‘The Magic Flute’. The Queen of the Night convinces Prince Tamino and the birdcatcher Papageno to go off to rescue her daughter, Pamina, from the evil **Sarastro**. When they get to Sarastro’s realm, they discover that he is actually a wise and just ruler and it is the Queen of the Night who is wicked, evil and plotting the overthrow of everything good.  
DQ#1: Was the original medium in which this character appeared a play?  
If I may, I’ll reserve my other two DQs until I get an answer.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/492 "2011-09-28T03:43:14Z")

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Did you create the pirate Captain Blood?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/493 "2011-09-28T13:25:40Z")

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Did you star in a flop martial arts film before winning two Oscars?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/494 "2011-09-28T13:27:50Z")

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Did Tennessee Tuxedo and Chumley drive you bonkers every week?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/495 "2011-09-28T16:16:26Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Were you a high school teacher and football coach, while working as a pro wrestler on the side?

No, I’m not Stone Cold Steve Austin.

> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you sing lead on the Sixties hit “She’s About a Mover”?

No, I’m not… Serena Baker? Wildass guess.

> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you create the pirate Captain Blood?

No, I’m not Robert Louis Stevenson.

I thought we’d agreed to three IQs between answers…?

S.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Has appeared as a movie character
4. Not American
5. Appeared in another medium before debut as a movie character
6. Native speaker of English, as far as I know
7. First name starts with “S”
8. Creator not from the UK
9. Movie in which I appeared was set between 1900 and 2011
10. Did not originally appear in a novel
11. Movie in which I appeared would IMHO generally not be considered part of the science fiction/fantasy/horror family of genres
12. Did not first appear in a play

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/496 "2011-09-28T16:25:33Z")

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IQ: Did Sex Pistol Steve Jones infamously swear on live TV because host Bill Grundy was flirting with you?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/497 "2011-09-28T16:32:02Z")

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[side talk] Hmm, the movie would not be considered science fiction, fantasy nor horror, yet the original medium was not a novel nor a play. Comic book, perhaps? Character based on a work of visual art? Fascinating, Captain. I have two more DQs coming, but we’re at the stage where I don’t want to waste them…[/side talk]

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/498 "2011-09-28T18:33:29Z")

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1. The high school teacher & football coach who moonlighted as a pro wrestler was George “The Animal” Steele. His real name is Jim Myers, and he kept his wrestling career a secret from students and colleagues for decades.

2. Captain Blood (and “Scaramouche”) were the creations of Rafael Sabatini.

3. And “She’s About a Mover” was a hit for the Sir Douglas Quintet, led by Doug Sahm (a musical legend here in Austin).  
DQ1: Was your creator American?

DQ2: Have you appeared in a series of books or stories?

DQ3: Were you created after 1950?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/499 "2011-09-28T20:22:00Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did Sex Pistol Steve Jones infamously swear on live TV because host Bill Grundy was flirting with you?

No, I’m not Siouxsie of The Banshees fame?

**astorian** , I’d never heard of any of those "S"s. Not sure Steele and Sahm, in particular, would meet the as-well-known-as-Botticelli rule, but I’ll let you have 'em.

S.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Has appeared as a movie character
4. Not American
5. Appeared in another medium before debut as a movie character
6. Native speaker of English, as far as I know
7. First name starts with “S”
8. Creator not from the UK
9. Movie in which I appeared was set between 1900 and 2011
10. Did not originally appear in a novel
11. Movie in which I appeared would IMHO generally not be considered part of the science fiction/fantasy/horror family of genres
12. Did not first appear in a play
13. Created by an American
14. Has appeared in books or stories, but not a series of them, as such
15. Created after 1950

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/500 "2011-09-28T21:45:06Z")

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Would it reassure you that George “The Animal” Steele was a co-star of _ **Ed Wood** _? Or that his trademark was a green tongue?

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