# Botticelli September 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 4, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171 "2011-09-04T16:52:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/41 "2011-09-06T03:09:49Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Were you famous for your “cross of gold” speech?

Not William Jennings Bryan

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/42 "2011-09-06T03:41:30Z")

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IQ: Are you typically depicted in a toque?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/43 "2011-09-06T04:39:04Z")

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IQ: Was an item of your imagined attire popular kidswear in the Fifties?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/44 "2011-09-06T08:00:24Z")

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IQ: Are you the only person outside of the Jackson family to have 7 US Top 10 singles from one album?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/45 "2011-09-06T10:45:26Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> IQ: Are you typically depicted in a toque?

Yes… and I have a VERY strong feeling you know who I am, but this question is just a tad too indirect.

Try again, and I suspect you’ll be champion again.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/46 "2011-09-06T10:46:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Was an item of your imagined attire popular kidswear in the Fifties?

Not Daniel Boone.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/47 "2011-09-06T10:47:28Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you the only person outside of the Jackson family to have 7 US Top 10 singles from one album?

Not… Bruce Springsteen?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/48 "2011-09-06T13:22:59Z")

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IQ: Did a young Helen Mirren once play your moll?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/49 "2011-09-06T14:15:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did a young Helen Mirren once play your moll?

Not… Bob Hoskins?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/50 "2011-09-06T15:22:54Z")

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Correct, in _The Long Good Friday_.

IQ: Did a likely political opponent half-jokingly suggest that you and he campaign together?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/51 "2011-09-06T15:25:45Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Correct, in _The Long Good Friday_.
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> IQ: Did a likely political opponent half-jokingly suggest that you and he campaign together?

DOn’t know this one- ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/52 "2011-09-06T15:37:21Z")

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John F. Kennedy suggested to his personal friend but political rival Barry Goldwater that they campaign together for President in 1964, each having a chance to speak before the same crowds, a la the Lincoln-Douglas debates. LBJ didn’t make the same offer after JFK’s death, and beat Goldwater handily.

DQ: Did you become a folk hero or legendary figure after your death?

IQ: Was a kind of small military vehicle named after you?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/53 "2011-09-06T15:46:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> John F. Kennedy suggested to his personal friend but political rival Barry Goldwater that they campaign together for President in 1964, each having a chance to speak before the same crowds, a la the Lincoln-Douglas debates. LBJ didn’t make the same offer after JFK’s death, and beat Goldwater handily.
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> DQ: Did you become a folk hero or legendary figure after your death?
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> IQ: Was a kind of small military vehicle named after you?

No

1. Real person (though millions probably believe I’m a made-up character)
2. Last name starts with “B”
3. Not born in 20th century.
4. An American citizen, but born and raised in another country
5. Male
6. Alive before 1899- just barely.
7. I never held a political/public office
8. I am not a folk hero or legendary figure, and I achieved my fame long before my death

Oh, and ask another DQ- I do’t know the military vehicle.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/54 "2011-09-06T15:51:14Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Did Sybil Fawlty describe your music as ‘that racket’?

Sorry I missed this one- take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/55 "2011-09-06T16:35:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQ: Was a kind of small military vehicle named after you?

Omar Bradley, after whom the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle was named.

DQ: Greatest achievement(s) during the Civil War?

IQ: Is one of your best-known songs also the title of a popular TV show?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/56 "2011-09-06T16:54:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Omar Bradley, after whom the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle was named.
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> DQ: Greatest achievement(s) during the Civil War?
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> IQ: Is one of your best-known songs also the title of a popular TV show?

Had no connection of any kind to the U.S. Civil War - note factoid #6.

1. Real person (though millions probably believe I’m a made-up character)
2. Last name starts with “B”
3. Not born in 20th century.
4. An American citizen, but born and raised in another country
5. Male
6. Alive before 1899- just barely.
7. I never held a political/public office
8. I am not a folk hero or legendary figure, and I achieved my fame long before my death
9. No involvement at all in U.S. Civil War

I can’t think of the song/TV show. Ask another DQ.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/57 "2011-09-06T17:14:35Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you the only person outside of the Jackson family to have 7 US Top 10 singles from one album?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Not… Bruce Springsteen?

Correct

IQ: When marketing your food product, did you spell your last name phonetically to make it easier for Americans to pronounce your Italian name?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/58 "2011-09-06T17:40:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\*  
> IQ: Did Sybil Fawlty describe your music as ‘that racket’?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Sorry I missed this one- take a DQ.

In an episode of ‘Fawlty Towers’, Basil is listening to a cassette recording of **Johannes Brahms** ’ 3rd Symphony when Sybil walks by and orders him to ‘turn off that racket’. Basil then exclaims ‘But that’s Brahms!’ and mutters under his breath ‘Brahms’ third racket.’

DQ: Did you die before 1960?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/59 "2011-09-06T17:42:01Z")

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DQ: Are you the author of ‘The Narrow Road to the Deep North’?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/60 "2011-09-06T18:58:59Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Correct
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> IQ: When marketing your food product, did you spell your last name phonetically to make it easier for Americans to pronounce your Italian name?

\*\*Yesss! I am Hector Boiardi, better known to millions as Chef Boy-Ar-Dee!

I was born in Italy in 1897, and moved to New York, where I became executive chef at the Plaza Hotel. Later, I was a successful restaurateur in Cleveland. I regularly gave away samples of my sauces in milk bottles, and eventually started canning and mass marketing my dishes myself. Since many Americans wouldn’t know how to pronounce “Boiardi,” I spelled the name phonetically, as “BOY-AR-DEE.”\*\*

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