# Botticelli September 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 4, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171 "2011-09-04T16:52:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/101 "2011-09-08T13:16:14Z")

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Did you take the heavyweight title from Muhammad Ali, and then lose it back to him in the rematch?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/102 "2011-09-08T13:17:25Z")

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Did you create Saul Panzer, Tecumseh Fox and Dol Bonner?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/103 "2011-09-08T13:22:06Z")

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Yes, it was the series-ending _X-Files_ clip show, but it was definitely an FBI tribunal. Even a military tribunal couldn’t sentence a U.S. citizen to death these days, though.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQ: When he was in trouble, did your boss call for your help in an uncharacteristic tone of voice?

Capt. Hook’s flunky, Smee, in _Peter Pan_. The Captain’s voice always jumped an octave or two when he called for Smee.

DQ: Religious figure?

IQ: Did you, before 1940, serve in both the U.S. Justice Department and on the Supreme Court?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/104 "2011-09-08T14:35:49Z")

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Did you and your son work on an early version of the Rocket?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/105 "2011-09-08T16:22:09Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Were you born after 1700?

Yes

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Did you score the winning goal in overtime in last year’s men’s olympic hockey final?

Another sports-related DQ for you

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> DQ: Were you born in England, Ireland, Scotland or Wales?

No

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> Did you once refer to Victoria as “our queer old dean”?

No, and I don’t know who did

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> Did you take the heavyweight title from Muhammad Ali, and then lose it back to him in the rematch?

Woo-hoo!!! A sports question I can answer!!! No, I am not Leon Spinks!!!

> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you create Saul Panzer, Tecumseh Fox and Dol Bonner?

No, and I don’t know who did. DQ time

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: Religious figure?

Yes

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> IQ: Did you, before 1940, serve in both the U.S. Justice Department and on the Supreme Court?

I am not former Chief Justice and former Attorney General Harlan Stone?? FDR appointed him, but was it before 1940?? I know he’s the answer to the trivia question “who was the first Chief Justice to never hold elected office”.

> [@Wargamer](#):
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> Did you and your son work on an early version of the Rocket?

No, and I don’t know who did. DQ for you.

Summary:

1. Male
2. Real Person
3. Last name starts with ‘S’
4. Not born in the 20th century
5. Born in Europe
6. Not famous for any artistic accomplishments
7. Born before 1850
8. Not involved in politics.
9. Not known for work in science or technology
10. Not famous for military role
11. Born after 1700
12. Not born in England, Ireland, Scotland or Wales
13. Religious figure

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/106 "2011-09-08T18:19:28Z")

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Saul Panzer, Tecumseh Fox and Dol Bonner are all detectives created by Rex (Nero Wolfe) Stout.

And “our queer old dean” (for “our dear old Queen”) is an example of a Spoonerism, named after Rev. William Archibald Spooner, who had a habit of misspeaking publicly to comical effect. Legend has it that students at Oxford were constantly calling, “Speech, speech,” hoping he’d trip over his tongue and say something memorably funny. His famous reply was, “You don’t want to hear me speak! You just want me to say one of those… THINGS!”  
DQ1: Were you Catholic?  
DQ2: Did you do your religious work far from your homeland?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/107 "2011-09-08T19:30:37Z")

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Were you replaced in 1966 by Jimmy Page?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/108 "2011-09-08T19:32:18Z")

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Did you go by the code name Koba for many years?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/109 "2011-09-08T19:39:37Z")

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Did you establish California missions like San Juan Capistrano?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/110 "2011-09-08T21:06:26Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: Were you Catholic?

Yes

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> DQ2: Did you do your religious work far from your homeland?

Yes

> [@astorian](#):
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> Were you replaced in 1966 by Jimmy Page?

No, I am not original Yardbirds bassist Paul Samwell-Smith

> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you go by the code name Koba for many years?

No, but don’t bother with a DQ because…

> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you establish California missions like San Juan Capistrano?

**Yes, I am Fr. Junipero Serra,** founder of the missions of Alta California in New Spain. I was born in Spain and moved to New Spain in my late 20s. Anyone who ever attended elementary school in California has studied me, or at least the missions I founded.

Good job, astorian.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/111 "2011-09-08T21:38:21Z")

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Congratulation, astorian!  
Just to clean up, the player who scored the winning goal in overtime in last year’s men’s olympic hockey final was Sidney Crosby for Team Canada. (There were an astonishing number of kids born in Canada in early December 2010 who were named ‘Sidney’, for some reason.) He is also well known as a poster child for the consequences of concussions - at present, despite much of last season and the summer off and in care, there is still no fixed date for his return to the NHL.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/112 "2011-09-09T03:03:22Z")

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And the guy who used the alias “Koba” was Joseph Stalin.

Okay, new game, and the new letter is… “L”

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/113 "2011-09-09T03:17:03Z")

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Are you the director who can’t help fiddling with your most beloved movies?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/114 "2011-09-09T03:46:33Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Are you the director who can’t help fiddling with your most beloved movies?

No, I’m not George Lucas

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/115 "2011-09-09T04:00:22Z")

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Congrats, **astorian**. You rule!

Yes, the answer to my earlier IQ was Harlan F. Stone.

IQ: Did you sometimes annoy your wife by hanging around the house barefoot because, you said, your feet needed to “breathe”?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/116 "2011-09-09T08:23:40Z")

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IQ: Are you a mermaid who used to date Superman?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/117 "2011-09-09T11:07:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Congrats, **astorian**. You rule!
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> Yes, the answer to my earlier IQ was Harlan F. Stone.
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> IQ: Did you sometimes annoy your wife by hanging around the house barefoot because, you said, your feet needed to “breathe”?

Not Abraham Lincoln

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/118 "2011-09-09T11:08:17Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> IQ: Are you a mermaid who used to date Superman?

I don’t know this one- ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/119 "2011-09-09T11:41:27Z")

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IQ: Are you known for your ability to play complex music on the bass and/or keyboards while singing?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2011/595171/120 "2011-09-09T12:49:52Z")

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IQ: Did you give the Winklevi a less than sympathetic hearing?

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