# Botticelli September 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 2, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480 "2012-09-02T21:37:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/21 "2012-09-09T02:59:21Z")
IQ: Did you get tangled up with Zola Budd? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/22 "2012-09-09T02:59:52Z")
**Elendil** -2 DQs but I’m not Walt Disney ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/23 "2012-09-09T03:01:09Z")
**Enginerd** -I’m not Mary Decker (Slaney) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/24 "2012-09-10T20:16:29Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Have you played a police officer, a Catholic military cadet, and a pilot trainee? > Are you allegedly kept on ice under an amusement park? > Were you a police detective in many works by P.D. James? David Keith, in _High Incident, The Lords of Discipline_ and _An Officer and a Gentleman._ Yes, Walt Disney. DCI Adam Dalglish. DQs: Won an Olympic medal since 2000? Best known for track and field? IQs: Did Charlie Sheen credit you with saving his life? Were you Lillian Hellman’s longtime sweetie? Did your parents urge you not to win a race? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/25 "2012-09-10T20:51:14Z")
Unsure of when she retired. Did win gold medals in track 3 DQs ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/26 "2012-09-11T02:33:44Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Unsure of when she retired. Did win gold medals in track… Under the longstanding Doper Botticelli house rules, in order to answer a DQ accurately - and only for that purpose - you’re permitted to do research. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQs: > > Did Charlie Sheen credit you with saving his life? > Were you Lillian Hellman’s longtime sweetie? > Did your parents urge you not to win a race? Keith David, another actor, during the filming of _Platoon_, when the helicopter they were in unexpectedly banked. Sheen fell towards the door and would have dropped to the ground far below but for David grabbing him. Mystery writer Dashiell Hammett. Very fast little kid Dashiell “Dash” Parr, in _The Incredibles_. Three DQs reserved. IQs: A noted female athlete, did you share the same first name or nickname as a noted male athlete? Very early in your career, did you appear in a VW ad? Were you a black hero of Pearl Harbor? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/27 "2012-09-11T04:48:43Z")
**Elendil** -Her Olympic swan song was Sydney, but you’ve earned 3 DQs. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/28 "2012-09-11T16:51:00Z")
Thanks. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > A noted female athlete, did you share the same first name or nickname as a noted male athlete? > Very early in your career, did you appear in a VW ad? > Were you a black hero of Pearl Harbor? Babe Didrickson. Dustin Hoffman: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3RD-hG4nbc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3RD-hG4nbc) Dorie Miller. Three more DQs reserved, for a total of six. No American Olympic female track stars with a last name beginning with “D” spring to mind. Anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/29 "2012-09-11T17:39:14Z")
Shoulda known Babe Zaharias! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/30 "2012-09-14T03:43:13Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …No American Olympic female track stars with a last name beginning with “D” spring to mind. Anyone else? …anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/31 "2012-09-14T04:04:37Z")
I’ll take one of **EH’s** DQs, if that’s ok. DQ: Are you a sprinter? I’m honestly not sure where that’s going to get me, since I can’t think of any runners whose last names start with D, but maybe narrowing down the event will jog someone’s memory. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/32 "2012-09-14T04:34:49Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …anyone? Sadly, my knowledge of female American track stars is lacking. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/33 "2012-09-14T12:26:43Z")
IQ1: Did you use a big stick in your olympic pursuit? IQ2: Were you best known for your fingernails? Those are the two Olympians, last name “D”, that I can think of… ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/34 "2012-09-14T14:55:12Z")
I’m not a sprinter Not Stacy Dragila or Gail Devers. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/35 "2012-09-14T15:22:49Z")
Still drawing a blank. Please update the DQ answers, **etv78**. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/36 "2012-09-14T15:47:38Z")
I am at a loss too, sorry **EH**. I thought it would have been Gail Devers. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/37 "2012-09-14T16:34:35Z")
Some table talk; sick as a dog and under deadline pressure at the moment… When I say ‘track’, that still covers a lot of stuff. ‘Doesn’t involve a ball’ may still involve a shot, and that might be a worthwhile clarification to ask for. **etv78** - does your definition of ball extend to any round object? Even without the 100M (and arguably the 200M - where do you draw the line between sprinting and running?), there’s still the 400M, marathon, 5km, 10km and 20km events. Then there’s the long list of ‘other’ track events - hurdling, discus, shot put, high jump, long jump, decathlon, pentathlon… I also find myself wondering if these Olympic gold medals are the only thing this person might be famous for - it’s been 12 years since the Sidney Olympics, and there’s every possibility Ms. D. may have done something else, even if it’s only coaching in the sport in which she earned a medal. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/38 "2012-09-14T18:54:12Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > When I say ‘track’, that still covers a lot of stuff. ‘Doesn’t involve a ball’ may still involve a shot, and that might be a worthwhile clarification to ask for. **etv78** - does your definition of ball extend to any round object? > > Even without the 100M (and arguably the 200M - where do you draw the line between sprinting and running?), there’s still the 400M, marathon, 5km, 10km and 20km events. Then there’s the long list of ‘other’ track events - hurdling, discus, shot put, high jump, long jump, decathlon, pentathlon… When I hear “track” I think “everything on the track that takes place during the Athletics events”, which is also sometimes called “track and field”. Shot, discuss, javelin, etc. are the “field” portions of that. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/39 "2012-09-15T07:37:50Z")
To me “ball” does not include the shot. reask the DQs please, I can’t see them upthread. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480/40 "2012-09-17T13:45:09Z")
All right, I’ll borrow a DQ, if I may - DQ - Are this person’s athletic accomplishments the ONLY reason that she should be considered as renowned as Botticelli? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2012/633480.md?page=3)