# Botticelli - September 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 4, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516 "2017-09-04T22:27:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/221 "2017-10-01T13:56:10Z")
DQs: 1. Real 2. Last name starts with U 3. Male 4. Not American 5. Dead 6. Not known for the Arts 7. European 8. Not known for politics/military 9. Not a businessman/entrepreneur 10. Not British 11. Died before 1900 12. Born west of Vienna 13. Born north of Vienna 14. Died before 1800 15. Best known for a single creation of his 16. From the Renaissance era 17. Native speaker of a Germanic language 18. Best known for theology/philosophy 19. Not Danish 20. Not German 21. Irish Happy October! In the spirit of fair play I’ve left an additional clue. Yes, you have heard of this guy. You have until 8 p.m. tonight. KO, I’m gonna take that as a joke guess. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/222 "2017-10-01T14:32:34Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Pass. Unpass. 😃 Are you Bishop Ussher? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/223 "2017-10-01T14:50:15Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Unpass. 😃 > Are you Bishop Ussher? Yep. Good job, SCAdian! ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/224 "2017-10-01T22:14:39Z")
'Twas the bonus clue that did it. 🙂 October thread [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20511573#post20511573). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/225 "2017-10-02T03:51:12Z")
> **[James Ussher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ussher)** > > James Ussher (or Usher; 4 January 1581 – 21 March 1656) was the Church of Ireland Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland between 1625 and 1656. He was a prolific scholar and church leader, who today is most famous for his identification of the genuine letters of the church father, Ignatius of Antioch, and for his chronology that sought to establish the time and date of the creation as "the entrance of the night preceding the 23rd day of October... the year before Christ 4004"; that is... I have indeed heard of him (first, in _Inherit the Wind_). But Ireland, in Ussher’s time, was British (DQ 10), wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516/226 "2017-10-02T11:50:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > [James Ussher - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ussher) > > I have indeed heard of him (first, in _Inherit the Wind_). But Ireland, in Ussher’s time, was British (DQ 10), wasn’t it? Ireland was controlled by Britain in the 17th century (I hadn’t realised Ussher lived that long ago), but it was still officially the Kingdom of Ireland – it wasn’t combined with the Kingdom of Great Britain until 1801. Yes, the king of Ireland and the king of Great Britain were the same person\*, but I wouldn’t include the Irish as British any more than I would call the inhabitants of any of the colonies British. - Just as today the queens of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, and twelve other countries are the same person. I wonder if she has a separate crown for each of those… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2017/795516.md?page=11)