# Botticelli - September 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 2, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600 "2019-09-02T20:16:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/181 "2019-09-09T19:59:18Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> _A character from 1705 who is “Not sci-fi/fantasy,” as you just told us, would not still be alive. Do I have to ask the exact same question again?_  
> It was a poorly worded question. A better question would have been, what time frame does the character occupy? That’s basically what you were going for, right?..

Others and I have asked it before with no problems. It may reveal both the fate of the character and the era of the story. And “What time frame does the character occupy?” is not a question that can be answered Y/N.

I guess I have to ask it again.

Previous IQs:

Were you one of Lincoln’s two personal aides? - John Hay  
Were you the other? - John Nicolay  
Were you a Civil War governor of Ohio? - John Brough

John x3!

DQs:

Main character?  
Show had a contemporary setting when first aired?  
Would be alive today, if real?

IQs:

Did Martin Freeman play you in the British version of _The Office_?  
Did this character often prank Dwight Schrute in the American version?  
Did the same actor play both this character and his dead brother, the latter of whom appeared in only a single scene of a TV show?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/182 "2019-09-09T20:07:06Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy
7. Created in the 70s
8. Originally from British TV, with a name change for American TV, looking for the American name
9. Not sci-fi/fantasy
10. One of the main characters
11. Contemporary setting
12. Alive today… probably

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/183 "2019-09-09T20:08:10Z")

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_Did Martin Freeman play you in the British version of The Office?  
Did this character often prank Dwight Schrute in the American version?  
Did the same actor play both this character and his dead brother, the latter of whom appeared in only a single scene of a TV show?_  
Take three DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/184 "2019-09-09T22:03:26Z")

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DQs:

1. Common first name?
2. From a comedy?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/185 "2019-09-09T22:05:37Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy
7. Created in the 70s
8. Originally from British TV, with a name change for American TV, looking for the American name
9. Not sci-fi/fantasy
10. One of the main characters
11. Contemporary setting
12. Alive today… probably
13. Common first name
14. Comedy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/186 "2019-09-09T22:05:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you work with Emma Peel?
2. Did you write the poem _Trees_?
3. Did you play the lead role on _Leave It To Beaver_?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/187 "2019-09-09T22:09:10Z")

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_1) Did you work with Emma Peel?  
2) Did you write the poem Trees?  
3) Did you play the lead role on Leave It To Beaver?_

Not Jerry Mathers, and not… John Steed? I really should know 2, but I don’t, take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/188 "2019-09-09T22:12:21Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> _1) Did you work with Emma Peel?  
> 2) Did you write the poem Trees?  
> 3) Did you play the lead role on Leave It To Beaver?_
> 
> Not Jerry Mathers, and not… John Steed? I really should know 2, but I don’t, take a DQ.

Correct on John and Jerry. #2 was Joyce Kilmer.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/189 "2019-09-10T01:16:41Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Martin Freeman play you in the British version of _The Office_? - Jim Canterbury  
Did this character often prank Dwight Schrute in the American version? - Jim Halpert  
Did the same actor play both this character and his dead brother, the latter of whom appeared in only a single scene of a TV show? - Jim Kirk’s brother, Sam: [George Samuel Kirk | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/George_Samuel_Kirk)

Jim x3!

DQs:

American version first aired after 2000?  
Married at any point?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Were you chief of staff to Maj. Gen. William Rosecrans?  
Were you a US Army general killed during the 1864 Atlanta Campaign?  
Are you a modern historian, no relation, who has the same name?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/190 "2019-09-10T01:32:25Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy
7. Created in the 70s
8. Originally from British TV, with a name change for American TV, looking for the American name
9. Not sci-fi/fantasy
10. One of the main characters
11. Contemporary setting
12. Alive today… probably
13. Common first name
14. Comedy
15. American version first aired before 2000
16. Not married

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/191 "2019-09-10T01:33:32Z")

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\*Were you chief of staff to Maj. Gen. William Rosecrans?  
Were you a US Army general killed during the 1864 Atlanta Campaign?  
Are you a modern historian, no relation, who has the same name?  
\*  
Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/192 "2019-09-10T10:21:39Z")

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DQ: Caucasian?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/193 "2019-09-10T13:07:47Z")

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IQ1: Are you a famously bad but enthusiastic singer?  
IQ2: Were you a Civil War general known for sucking lemons and sitting on your horse with your hand in the air, to ease a wounded finger?  
IQ: Were you an executive with the habit of conducting business meetings while sitting on the toilet?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/194 "2019-09-10T13:52:09Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you chief of staff to Maj. Gen. William Rosecrans? - James A. Garfield  
Were you a US Army general killed during the 1864 Atlanta Campaign? - James McPherson  
Are you a modern historian, no relation, who has the same name? - Also James McPherson, who won the Pulitzer Prize for _Battle Cry of Freedom_

DQs:

Associated with NYC?  
Handsome?

Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/195 "2019-09-10T14:00:29Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the lead character in George M. Cohan’s first musical?
2. Did you play George M. Cohan in multiple films?
3. Were you bothered on your TV series by a puppet named Umbriago?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/196 "2019-09-10T15:10:07Z")

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Forgot to say, James x3!

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/197 "2019-09-10T16:24:31Z")

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\*IQ1: Are you a famously bad but enthusiastic singer?  
IQ2: Were you a Civil War general known for sucking lemons and sitting on your horse with your hand in the air, to ease a wounded finger?  
IQ: Were you an executive with the habit of conducting business meetings while sitting on the toilet?  
\*  
Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/198 "2019-09-10T16:26:34Z")

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\*1) Are you the lead character in George M. Cohan’s first musical?  
2) Did you play George M. Cohan in multiple films?  
3) Were you bothered on your TV series by a puppet named Umbriago?  
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2 is James Cagney, take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/199 "2019-09-10T16:30:19Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy
7. Created in the 70s
8. Originally from British TV, with a name change for American TV, looking for the American name
9. Not sci-fi/fantasy
10. One of the main characters
11. Contemporary setting
12. Alive today… probably
13. Common first name
14. Comedy
15. American version first aired before 2000
16. Not married
17. Caucasian
18. Not associated with NYC
19. Good looking

Handsome is a matter of degree and opinion, the best I can post is good looking

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/200 "2019-09-10T16:48:30Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the lead character in George M. Cohan’s first musical?
> 2. Did you play George M. Cohan in multiple films?
> 3. Were you bothered on your TV series by a puppet named Umbriago?

> [@atimnie](#):
>
> \*1) Are you the lead character in George M. Cohan’s first musical?  
> 2) Did you play George M. Cohan in multiple films?  
> 3) Were you bothered on your TV series by a puppet named Umbriago?  
> \*  
> 2 is James Cagney, take 2 DQs.

#1 is Little Johnny Jones  
Correct on Cohan.  
#3 was Jimmy Durante.

2 DQs reserved.

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