# Botticelli - September 2019 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 2, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600 "2019-09-02T20:16:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/81 "2019-09-05T12:11:02Z")
I can honestly say I have no idea who this is, so I’ll give my DQ to whoever wants it. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/82 "2019-09-05T13:35:12Z")
Fixing omission in list. 1. Real 2. Female 3. American 4. Not living 5. First name starts with Z 6. Died before 2000 7. Known for the arts 8. Died after 1950 9. Not known for the performing arts 10. Not known for the literary arts 11. Known for the visual arts 12. Painter 13. Not a photographer 14. Not known for just one piece of work 15. Most active in the 40s and 50s 16. First name does not start with Za - Zh 17. Not known for abstracts 18. No works in the National Gallery of Art (as far as I know) 19. Some her work can sell for thousands ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/83 "2019-09-05T14:23:03Z")
My Last DQ: Painting on canvas (as opposed to painted ceramics, etc.)? KO’s DQ: Known as a regional artist? ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/84 "2019-09-05T14:33:16Z")
1. Real 2. Female 3. American 4. Not living 5. First name starts with Z 6. Died before 2000 7. Known for the arts 8. Died after 1950 9. Not known for the performing arts 10. Not known for the literary arts 11. Known for the visual arts 12. Painter 13. Not a photographer 14. Not known for just one piece of work 15. Most active in the 40s and 50s 16. First name does not start with Za - Zh 17. Not known for abstracts 18. No works in the National Gallery of Art (as far as I know) 19. Some her work can sell for thousands 20. Painted on canvas 21. Not just regional And that’s it for the IQs and DQs, time to make your final guesses. Answer will be posted sometime in the late afternoon/early evening. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/85 "2019-09-05T14:40:56Z")
Zilla? Zola? Zuleika? Zosima? I’m not coming up with a good answer. Or any answer… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/86 "2019-09-05T16:26:09Z")
Yeah, I’m stumped, too. Georgia O’Keeffe is the only female American painter I can think of from around that time. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/87 "2019-09-05T18:08:51Z")
Still nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/88 "2019-09-05T18:13:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeah, I’m stumped, too. Georgia O’Keeffe is the only female American painter I can think of from around that time. Exactly my thought, as well. Hell, I could only think of Andrew Wyeth, Edward Hopper, and Grant Wood, among the men. Guess I’m just an uncultured yahoo. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/89 "2019-09-05T18:18:51Z")
Well, there’s Clarice Cliff (pottery), Kathe Kollwitz (German printmaker), Frida Kahlo (Mexican), Lee Krasner (abstract expressionist) and a bunch more regional artists from Indiana I know, but none fit the bill. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/90 "2019-09-05T19:19:03Z")
I’ll give you an extra hint, expand your guesses beyond art museums. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/91 "2019-09-05T20:58:29Z")
Hmm, guys, so maybe an illustrator or muralist? (That’s not a DQ, by the way.) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/92 "2019-09-05T21:46:37Z")
Still no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/93 "2019-09-05T21:57:55Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Hmm, guys, so maybe an illustrator or muralist? (That’s not a DQ, by the way.) Illustrator is a good guess, but I still dunno. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/94 "2019-09-05T22:04:13Z")
And the answer is… Zoe Mozert One of the most popular pinup artists of the of the 40s and 50s, part of “the big four” which also included Rolf Armstrong, Earl Moran and Gil Elvgren. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/95 "2019-09-05T22:44:03Z")
Oh, yeah, _Bubbles_. I haven’t thought about her for over a decade, but I do know her. Good one, **atimnie**. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/96 "2019-09-05T23:02:31Z")
I should make the next one easier to guess, this is too much like work. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/97 "2019-09-06T00:29:30Z")
Okay, have to confess, never heard of her. Cf. “uncultured yahoo” post. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/98 "2019-09-06T00:53:26Z")
Never heard of her either (nor any of the others of the “big four,” for that matter). For more: > **[Zoë Mozert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zo%C3%AB_Mozert)** > > Zoë Mozert (/ˈmoʊzərt/; April 27, 1907 – February 1, 1993), born Alice Adelaide Moser, was an American illustrator. She was also known as one of the early 20th century's most famous pin-up artists and models. > In 1925 Mozert entered the Pennsylvania Museum School of Industrial Art where she studied under Thornton Oakley, a former student of Howard Pyle, and modeled to raise money for tuition. > During her career, Mozert painted hundreds of magazine covers and movie posters. She frequently was her... [https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=945&ei=161xXderIbGE5wK2rofwCw&q=zoe+mozert+art&oq=zoe+mozert+art&gs\_l=img.3..0j0i24.51.1914..2106...0.0..0.126.1101.13j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i30.cpbAkyjD7Vk&ved=0ahUKEwiX8\_jW\_brkAhUxwlkKHTbXAb4Q4dUDCAU&uact=5](https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=945&ei=161xXderIbGE5wK2rofwCw&q=zoe+mozert+art&oq=zoe+mozert+art&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24.51.1914..2106...0.0..0.126.1101.13j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i30.cpbAkyjD7Vk&ved=0ahUKEwiX8_jW_brkAhUxwlkKHTbXAb4Q4dUDCAU&uact=5) ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/99 "2019-09-06T01:07:37Z")
Next: I am **Z** Yes, again. I think you’ll get this one. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/100 "2019-09-06T01:53:48Z")
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