# Botticelli - September 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 2, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600 "2019-09-02T20:16:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/161 "2019-09-08T20:00:21Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you an American expressionist painter known for your depictions of the U.S. flag?
2. Were you born Reginald Dwight?
3. Are you a singer/actress suffering from your third (and probably final) bout of cancer?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/162 "2019-09-08T20:00:40Z")

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Did a non-American actor play you, an iconic American figure, in a recent movie with Natalie Portman?  
Did Portman play you in that movie?  
Were you Portman’s character’s second child?

Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/163 "2019-09-08T20:02:35Z")

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1. Are you an American expressionist painter known for your depictions of the U.S. flag?
2. Were you born Reginald Dwight?
3. Are you a singer/actress suffering from your third (and probably final) bout of cancer?

Not Jasper Johns, not Elton John, take a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/164 "2019-09-08T20:03:44Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you an American expressionist painter known for your depictions of the U.S. flag?
> 2. Were you born Reginald Dwight?
> 3. Are you a singer/actress suffering from your third (and probably final) bout of cancer?

> [@atimnie](#):
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> 1. Are you an American expressionist painter known for your depictions of the U.S. flag?
> 2. Were you born Reginald Dwight?
> 3. Are you a singer/actress suffering from your third (and probably final) bout of cancer?
> 
> Not Jasper Johns, not Elton John, take a DQ

Correct, Correct, and Olivia Newton-John.

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/165 "2019-09-08T20:06:49Z")

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1. Fictional

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/166 "2019-09-08T21:01:12Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did a non-American actor play you, an iconic American figure, in a recent movie with Natalie Portman? - JFK, played by a young Danish actor  
Did Portman play you in that movie? - The title character in _Jackie_  
Were you Portman’s character’s second child? - JFK Jr.

DQs:

Male?  
Last name start with J?  
Would be alive today, if real?

IQs:

Have you played a murderous alien, a Russian spy, an AI and a bored woman in a foreign hotel, among other roles?  
Are you the PM of the UK?  
Are you his brother, recently resigned from the Cabinet?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/167 "2019-09-08T23:21:54Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/168 "2019-09-08T23:23:43Z")

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\*Have you played a murderous alien, a Russian spy, an AI and a bored woman in a foreign hotel, among other roles?  
Are you the PM of the UK?  
Are you his brother, recently resigned from the Cabinet?  
\*

Think the second one is Boris Johnson, take a DQ on the others.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/169 "2019-09-09T01:32:46Z")

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I asked, “Would be alive today, if real?” and you answered, “Did not die in character.” However, a character who did not die by the end of a movie set in 1705 would still be dead today.

Previous IQs:

Have you played a murderous alien, a Russian spy, an AI and a bored woman in a foreign hotel, among other roles? - Scarlett Johansson, in _Under the Skin, The Avengers, Her_ and _Lost in Translation_.  
Are you the PM of the UK? - Yes, Boris Johnson  
Are you his brother, recently resigned from the Cabinet? - Jo Johnson

DQs:

American?  
Considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Are you Baroness Haden-Guest?  
Did you have the most famous early sex-change operation?  
Are you the heroine of _Aladdin_?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/170 "2019-09-09T05:34:29Z")

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_However, a character who did not die by the end of a movie set in 1705 would still be dead today._  
Not necessarily, the character could be immortal, like ghosts or spirits. That was not a clue, just an explanation.

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/171 "2019-09-09T05:36:22Z")

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_Are you Baroness Haden-Guest?  
Did you have the most famous early sex-change operation?  
Are you the heroine of Aladdin?_

Not Jamie Lee Curtis, not Christine Jorgensen, not Jasmine

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/172 "2019-09-09T12:18:29Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you create the concept of “the collective unconscious”?
2. Are you aka Green Lantern?
3. Are you also aka Green Lantern?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/173 "2019-09-09T14:25:42Z")

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IQ1: Are you a CIA analyst whose adventures are penned by Tom Clancy?  
IQ2: Do you play IQ1 in an Amazon series?  
IQ3: Were you played by IQ2 in _The Office_?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/174 "2019-09-09T16:56:51Z")

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_1) Did you create the concept of “the collective unconscious”?  
2) Are you aka Green Lantern?  
3) Are you also aka Green Lantern?_

Not Carl Jung, take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/175 "2019-09-09T16:58:42Z")

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_IQ1: Are you a CIA analyst whose adventures are penned by Tom Clancy?  
IQ2: Do you play IQ1 in an Amazon series?  
IQ3: Were you played by IQ2 in The Office?_

Not Jason Bourne, take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/176 "2019-09-09T17:34:23Z")

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Jack Ryan, John Krazinsky, Jim Halpert

DQ: Created after 1979?  
DQ: Original appearance in literature?  
DQ: Scifi/fantasy genre?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/177 "2019-09-09T17:57:41Z")

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1. Fictional
2. Male
3. First name starts with J
4. Did not die in character
5. American
6. Good guy
7. Created in the 70s
8. Originally from British TV, with a name change for American TV, looking for the American name
9. Not sci-fi/fantasy

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/178 "2019-09-09T18:11:47Z")

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Swept my latest three IQs.

> [@atimnie](#):
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> _However, a character who did not die by the end of a movie set in 1705 would still be dead today._  
> Not necessarily, the character could be immortal, like ghosts or spirits. That was not a clue, just an explanation…

A character from 1705 who is “Not sci-fi/fantasy,” as you just told us, would not still be alive. Do I have to ask the exact same question again?

IQs:

Were you one of Lincoln’s two personal aides?  
Were you the other?  
Were you a Civil War governor of Ohio?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/179 "2019-09-09T18:33:38Z")

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_A character from 1705 who is “Not sci-fi/fantasy,” as you just told us, would not still be alive. Do I have to ask the exact same question again?_  
It was a poorly worded question. A better question would have been, what time frame does the character occupy? That’s basically what you were going for, right?

Oh, and take three DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2019/839600/180 "2019-09-09T18:37:57Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you create the concept of “the collective unconscious”?
> 2. Are you aka Green Lantern?
> 3. Are you also aka Green Lantern?

> [@atimnie](#):
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> _1) Did you create the concept of “the collective unconscious”?  
> 2) Are you aka Green Lantern?  
> 3) Are you also aka Green Lantern?_
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> Not Carl Jung, take two DQs.

Correct on Carl. Hal Jordan and John Stewart are of the Lantern Corps.

2 DQs reserved.

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