# Botticelli September 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 4, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596 "2023-09-04T17:42:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/1 "2023-09-04T17:42:50Z")

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Welcome to the September 2023 Botticelli thread, with me, your host W. De La Rue. [Here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985) is the previous month’s thread, [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-june-2023/984875) is an explanation of the rules from a thread earlier this year, [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223) is a thread for questions about the game, and [here](https://tile.loc.gov/image-services/iiif/service:gdc:gdcwdl:wd:l_:02:70:7:wdl_02707:05598_2000_001_pr/full/pct:50/0/default.jpg#h=1077&w=1575) is the most requested picture from the US National Archives.

I am S.  
[![](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1151557689/vector/vector-image-of-a-flat-isolated-icon-dollar-sign-currency-exchange-dollar-united-states.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=XxoU_vrc2LCsrlRnmZHysq6HG_tBIUsPVVxi0VeTCKA=) ](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1151557689/vector/vector-image-of-a-flat-isolated-icon-dollar-sign-currency-exchange-dollar-united-states.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=XxoU_vrc2LCsrlRnmZHysq6HG_tBIUsPVVxi0VeTCKA=)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/2 "2023-09-04T19:18:53Z")

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S it is!

Did you order a ceasefire for a foe’s wedding night?  
Did you write a book about coming to grips with playing the title role of Shakespeare’s _Richard III_?  
Did you and another man of the same name once simultaneously step out onto the main stage of _SNL_?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/3 "2023-09-04T19:33:18Z")

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IQs:

1. Have you played a mathematician, an astrophysicist, and a Saxon warchief?
2. Did you win a famous race by such a large margin that your competitors aren’t even in the photo of you crossing the finish line?
3. Were you excommunicated by your religious community, for your naturalistic conception of God, denial of the immortality of the soul, and, most damning of all, denial that the Torah was given by God and that its precepts were still binding on Jews?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/4 "2023-09-04T19:41:15Z")

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1. Were you the ranger companion to the Avatar in the Ultima games, representing the virtue of spirituality?
2. Did you recommend that your clients purchase of a Laser Tag franchise, but was turned down (for reasons partially motivated by spite) in favor of a car wash.
3. Did you end up running said car wash?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/5 "2023-09-04T19:51:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you order a ceasefire for a foe’s wedding night?  
> Did you write a book about coming to grips with playing the title role of Shakespeare’s _Richard III_?  
> Did you and another man of the same name once simultaneously step out onto the main stage of _SNL_?

Respectively:  
I am not Saladin.  
I am not Sal Pacino.  
I am not Paul Simon.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Have you played a mathematician, an astrophysicist, and a Saxon warchief?
> 2. Did you win a famous race by such a large margin that your competitors aren’t even in the photo of you crossing the finish line?
> 3. Were you excommunicated by your religious community, for your naturalistic conception of God, denial of the immortality of the soul, and, most damning of all, denial that the Torah was given by God and that its precepts were still binding on Jews?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. I am not Secretariat?  
3. I am not Baruch Spinoza.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> 1. Were you the ranger companion to the Avatar in the Ultima games, representing the virtue of spirituality?
> 2. Did you recommend that your clients purchase of a Laser Tag franchise, but was turned down (for reasons partially motivated by spite) in favor of a car wash.
> 3. Did you end up running said car wash?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/6 "2023-09-04T20:08:19Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > 1. Were you the ranger companion to the Avatar in the Ultima games, representing the virtue of spirituality?
> > 2. Did you recommend that your clients purchase of a Laser Tag franchise, but was turned down (for reasons partially motivated by spite) in favor of a car wash.
> > 3. Did you end up running said car wash?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. Take a DQ.

1. Shamino
2. Saul Goodman (from Breaking Bad)
3. Skyler White (Walter White’s wife)

DQ:

1. Real?
2. Male?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/7 "2023-09-04T21:22:48Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you star with Tom Hanks on _Bosom Buddies_?
2. Did you play the wife on _McMillan and Wife_?
3. Are you the Special Council behind 2 federal investigations of Donald Trump?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/8 "2023-09-05T02:00:30Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you order a ceasefire for a foe’s wedding night? - Yes, Saladin, during the Crusades  
Did you write a book about coming to grips with playing the title role of Shakespeare’s _Richard III_? - British actor Simon Callow  
Did you and another man of the same name once simultaneously step out onto the main stage of _SNL_? - Yes, Paul Simon, both the singer and the US Senator

DQ:

American?

IQs:

Did Brienne slay you on the edge of a wood near Winterfell?  
Did you rescue Mussolini on Hitler’s orders?  
Was Pilate assured you were _not_ in the Jerusalem garrison?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/9 "2023-09-05T02:12:38Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > :
> > 
> > 1. Have you played a mathematician, an astrophysicist, and a Saxon warchief?
> > 2. Did you win a famous race by such a large margin that your competitors aren’t even in the photo of you crossing the finish line?
> > 3. Were you excommunicated by your religious community, for your naturalistic conception of God, denial of the immortality of the soul, and, most damning of all, denial that the Torah was given by God and that its precepts were still binding on Jews?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. I am not Secretariat?
> 3. I am not Baruch Spinoza.

Correct on Secretariat and Spinoza; No.1 was Stellan Skarsgaard, in _Good Will Hunting_, _Thor_, and _King Arthur._

DQ: Living?

IQs:

1. Were you a Dominican monk who was burned at the stake for criticizing the Papacy?
2. Were you a Sicilian-American mobster who, unusually for the time, started as a protege of a Jewish gambler, and was closely associated with two Jewish mobsters?
3. Were you one of those Jewish gangsters?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/10 "2023-09-05T02:45:09Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you star with Tom Hanks on _Bosom Buddies_?
> 2. Did you play the wife on _McMillan and Wife_?
> 3. Are you the Special Council behind 2 federal investigations of Donald Trump?

1. I am not Peter Scolari.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Jack Smith.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did Brienne slay you on the edge of a wood near Winterfell?  
> Did you rescue Mussolini on Hitler’s orders?  
> Was Pilate assured you were _not_ in the Jerusalem garrison?

Respectively:  
I am not Stannis Baratheon.  
I am not Stephan Nazi.  
I am not Simon the Saducee.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a Dominican monk who was burned at the stake for criticizing the Papacy?
> 2. Were you a Sicilian-American mobster who, unusually for the time, started as a protege of a Jewish gambler, and was closely associated with two Jewish mobsters?
> 3. Were you one of those Jewish gangsters?

1. I am not Savonarola.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Bugsy Siegel?

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. male  
3. American  
4. is neither living nor dead but a fictional character

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/11 "2023-09-05T02:56:03Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you write a book about coming to grips with playing the title role of Shakespeare’s _Richard III_? - British actor Simon Callow

You shure you’re not thinking of Anthony Sher?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/12 "2023-09-05T03:19:57Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were you a Dominican monk who was burned at the stake for criticizing the Papacy?
> > 2. Were you a Sicilian-American mobster who, unusually for the time, started as a protege of a Jewish gambler, and was closely associated with two Jewish mobsters?
> > 3. Were you one of those Jewish gangsters?
> 
> 1. I am not Savonarola.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Bugsy Siegel?

Correct on 1 and 3. 2 was a bit of a trick question, since Salvatore Lucania was better known as Charlie “Lucky” Luciano.

DQ: From literature?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/13 "2023-09-05T03:21:55Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > Did you write a book about coming to grips with playing the title role of Shakespeare’s _Richard III_? - British actor Simon Callow
> 
> You shure you’re not thinking of Anthony Sher?

Pretty sure it was Callow. 🤔

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/14 "2023-09-05T03:28:33Z")

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1. Were you created by Leslie Charteris?
2. Did you travel from Earth to the Witch World?
3. Are you probably Lesley Ann Warren’s most famous role?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/15 "2023-09-05T12:53:04Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you star with Tom Hanks on _Bosom Buddies_?
> > 2. Did you play the wife on _McMillan and Wife_?
> > 3. Are you the Special Council behind 2 federal investigations of Donald Trump?
> 
> 1. I am not Peter Scolari.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Jack Smith.

Correct, Susan St. James, Correct.

DQ: Last name starts with S?

Fictional characters can be living or dead. In _A Christmas Carol_, “Marley was dead to begin with, dead as a doornail.”

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/16 "2023-09-05T16:17:52Z")

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IQ1: Were you one of the main characters in an oversized comic book released in '75 or '76?  
IQ2: Were you also of the main characters in that comic book?  
IQ3: Were you a Mexican president and general?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/17 "2023-09-05T16:32:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Fictional characters can be living or dead

I go by the character’s status at the end of the story - “believed to be dead” (eg, Jane at the end of _Tarzan the Untamed_), “known to be dead” (eg Paulvitch at the end of _The Son of Tarzan_), or “still living when last seen” (eg, Carson Napier at the end of _The Wizard of Venus_).

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/18 "2023-09-05T16:51:51Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> 1. Were you created by Leslie Charteris?
> 2. Did you travel from Earth to the Witch World?
> 3. Are you probably Lesley Ann Warren’s most famous role?

1. I am not the Saint.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. Take a DQ.

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you one of the main characters in an oversized comic book released in '75 or '76?  
> IQ2: Were you also of the main characters in that comic book?  
> IQ3: Were you a Mexican president and general?

IQ1: I am not Superman.  
IQ2: I am not the Amazing Spider-man.  
IQ3: I am not Santa Anna.

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. male  
3. American and other nationality  
4. is a living character in-story/stories  
5. not from prose literature  
6. first name starts with S

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Fictional characters can be living or dead.

Not everything that applies to real people applies to fiction. Fictional characters are, by definition, neither living or dead–they’re fictional. Of course, fictional characters _can_ be living or dead in-story. It’s a “This is not a pipe” thing.

In the spirit of being nice, I have re-interpreted SMV’s question to be whether the character is living in-story.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/19 "2023-09-05T16:54:16Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> I have re-interpreted SMV’s question to be whether the character is living in-story.

I would say that’s the default interpretation in the context of these games.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2023/989596/20 "2023-09-05T17:34:55Z")

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IQs:

1. Sapristi nuckos! Were you a busty, attractive female British TV personality often mentioned longingly in the highly acclaimed, all-talking, plasma-scented 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?

2. Are you initially disliked by the dominant character in the book _Green Eggs and Ham_?

3. Did you apologize to comic book fans for your script and direction in the third of a series of superhero movies?

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