# Botticelli, September 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 3, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694 "2025-09-03T01:19:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/241 "2025-09-20T19:48:40Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
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> > 1. Did you husband refer to you as “Midge”?
> > 2. Were fans of your talk show known as “Loudmouths”?
> > 3. Were you one of Superman’s super-villains (and I use that term sparingly) who was played by Howie Mandel, Gilbert Gottfried, and Michael J. Pollard, among others?
> 
> Take 2 DQs and a I am not Mr. Mxyzqktlp (or something like that)

Miriam Maisel, _The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel_  
Morton Downey, jr.  
Close enough! Mr. Mxyzptlk

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/242 "2025-09-20T20:55:04Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> I am not Mary Steenburgen.  
> I am not Malcolm McDowell.  
> I am not Marty McFly.

A clean sweep!

IQs:  
1. Were you the Elephant Man?  
2. Did you produce the movie about the above person?  
3. Were you directed by the above person in his 1974, _other_ 1974, 1977, and 1981 movies?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/243 "2025-09-20T20:57:43Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a Mexican general who invaded the United States and captured the Alamo?  
> IQ2: Do you blow the stars around?  
> IQ3: Were you one of the Monsters of the Moors?

Santa Anna must have had a matronymic with M (Manuel, maybe?), I guess, otherwise take a DQ.  
Take 2 DQs.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the Elephant Man?
> 2. Did you produce the movie about the above person?
> 3. Were you directed by the above person in his 1974, _other_ 1974, 1977, and 1981 movies?

I am not John Merrick… I am a human being!  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/244 "2025-09-20T21:01:28Z")

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# M

1. Real
2. Male
3. First and last name begin with M
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. Born after Jan. 1, 1950
7. Best known for the perfoming arts
8. American
9. Born before 1975
10. Born before 1962
11. Not known for acting
12. Musician
13. Caucasian
14. Not known for dance

I count 9 DQs outstanding, so no more IQs, please. Please have all DQs in by noon EDT Monday, September 22.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/245 "2025-09-20T22:11:59Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> I am not John Merrick… I am a human being!  
> Take 2 DQs.

2 (producer) was Mel Brooks; 3 was Madeline Kahn (in _Blazing Saddles_, _Young Frankenstein_, _High Anxiety_, and _History of the World, Part I_, respectively). Close enough on Joseph Merrick.

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/246 "2025-09-20T22:34:00Z")

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DQ: Known for being part of a band?

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/247 "2025-09-21T03:50:46Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you play Le Chiffre in the most recent _Casino Royale_? - Mads Mikkelsen (sp?)  
Were you a gangster who corresponded with a vampire? - Not Meyer Lansky, but Hubie Marsten in Stephen King’s novel _'Salem’s Lot_  
Were you a former SS man and current assassin in _The ODESSA File_? - Mackensen

DQs:

Best known as a vocalist?  
Has won a Grammy?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/248 "2025-09-21T04:30:39Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > Q1: Were you a Mexican general who invaded the United States and captured the Alamo?  
> > IQ2: Do you blow the stars around?  
> > IQ3: Were you one of the Monsters of the Moors?
> 
> Santa Anna must have had a matronymic with M (Manuel, maybe?), I guess, otherwise take a DQ.  
> Take 2 DQs.

Max  
Maria  
Myra Hindley

DQ: Known for some variety of rock music?  
2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/249 "2025-09-21T05:22:49Z")

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# M

1. Real
2. Male
3. First and last name begin with M
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. Born after Jan. 1, 1950
7. Best known for the perfoming arts
8. American
9. Born before 1975
10. Born before 1962
11. Not known for acting
12. Musician
13. Caucasian
14. Not known for dance
15. Best known as part of a band
16. Best known as a vocalist
17. Has not won a Grammy
18. Known for some variety of rock music

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/250 "2025-09-21T12:31:56Z")

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DQs:

1. Best known before 1980?
2. Band had at least one #1 hit on Billboard?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/251 "2025-09-21T15:33:57Z")

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# M

1. Real
2. Male
3. First and last name begin with M
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. Born after Jan. 1, 1950
7. Best known for the perfoming arts
8. American
9. Born before 1975
10. Born before 1962
11. Not known for acting
12. Musician
13. Caucasian
14. Not known for dance
15. Best known as part of a band
16. Best known as a vocalist
17. Has not won a Grammy
18. Known for some variety of rock music
19. Best known since 1980
20. Band did not have a Billboard #1 hit

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/252 "2025-09-21T17:24:47Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> 1. Best known since 1980

Clarification, please: “Best known since 1980” meaning “best known during the period from 1980 until now”, or “became best known at some point between 1980 and now”?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/253 "2025-09-21T19:05:52Z")

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Not quite sure of the semantic difference here, but perhaps:

“Greatest level of fame occurred since January 1, 1980”

would be the best way to phrase it. Which I guess is more your second phrasing?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/254 "2025-09-21T19:10:20Z")

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EH often asks IQs like “Died since 1990?” My first thought is always along the lines of “Yes, in fact I’ve died seven times since 1990”, but the response I give is “Died/Did not die after 1990.”

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/255 "2025-09-21T22:48:22Z")

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DQs:

Band best known with 4-person lineup?  
Band have rotating members after 1980?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/256 "2025-09-21T23:45:05Z")

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Final DQs:  
1. first name starts from Ma-Mi?  
2. last name starts from Ma-Mi?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/257 "2025-09-22T01:42:29Z")

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# M

1. Real
2. Male
3. First and last name begin with M
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. Born after Jan. 1, 1950
7. Best known for the perfoming arts
8. American
9. Born before 1975
10. Born before 1962
11. Not known for acting
12. Musician
13. Caucasian
14. Not known for dance
15. Best known as part of a band
16. Best known as a vocalist
17. Has not won a Grammy
18. Known for some variety of rock music
19. Best known since 1980
20. Band did not have a Billboard #1 hit
21. Band not best known with a 4-person lineup
22. Band has changed some members since 1980
23. First name starts from Ma-Mi
24. Last name starts from Mj-Mz

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/258 "2025-09-22T04:38:12Z")

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I yield my two remaining DQs, one per customer, to anyone who can think of a good use for them.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/259 "2025-09-22T06:49:00Z")

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Did you sing about a horse named Wildfire?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-september-2025/1022694/260 "2025-09-22T06:59:51Z")

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# M

1. Real
2. Male
3. First and last name begin with M
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. Born after Jan. 1, 1950
7. Best known for the perfoming arts
8. American
9. Born before 1975
10. Born before 1962
11. Not known for acting
12. Musician
13. Caucasian
14. Not known for dance
15. Best known as part of a band
16. Best known as a vocalist
17. Has not won a Grammy
18. Known for some variety of rock music
19. Best known since 1980
20. Band did not have a Billboard #1 hit
21. Band not best known with a 4-person lineup
22. Band has changed some members since 1980
23. First name starts from Ma-Mi
24. Last name starts from Mj-Mz
25. Did not sing about a horse called Wildfire, as near as I can tell

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