# BOTTOM ten animated films?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 4, 2003, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314 "2003-11-04T08:35:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/1 "2003-11-04T08:35:44Z")

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…Inspired by [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=4190707), what would you consider to be the WORST ten animated films, ever made?

I’m very tired, so I can’t think of any suggestions myself. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/2 "2003-11-04T09:08:51Z")

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Leaving aside all the crap produced for toddlers with no pretensions to quality, my picks are:  
[ul]_[_]Yellow Submarine[_]Heavy Metal[_]Heavy Metal 2000[_]Lord of the Rings[_]Wizards[_]Eight Crazy Nights[_]Walt Disney’s Alice In Wonderland[_]Fritz the Cat_ (Unless viewer is between the ages of 12 and 16, and has never actually read any Crumb.)_[_]The Jungle Book\*[/ul]Sure it’s only nine. If it makes you feel any better, I’ll say _Space Jam_, although it wasn’t an animated film, strictly speaking. Still hurtful, though.

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**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/3 "2003-11-04T09:15:26Z")

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Just pick ten Disney d-t-v animated sequels at random.

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**Author:** ![Short\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Short\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/4 "2003-11-04T10:38:42Z")

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The Care Bears movie.

Nuff said.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/5 "2003-11-04T10:44:31Z")

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Anything I’ve seen by Ralph Bakshi:  
Lord of the Rings  
Wizards  
Cool World

By Disney:  
Robin Hood  
Black Cauldron

By Don Bluth:  
Anastasia (only because it’s so obviously rotoscoped)

By others:  
Anything by Hanna Barbera that was forced into feature length.

It’s hard to come up with bad stuff as I block it out of my mind if possible.

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/6 "2003-11-04T11:00:18Z")

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In no particular order:

Gumby:TM  
Fritz the Cat  
Thumbelina  
All dogs go to heaven  
Sword in the Stone  
Rock-A-Doodle  
Pokemon:TM  
X/1999  
Yellow Submarine  
Care Bears:TM

Dishonorable mentions:

Ferngully  
HB Jetson,Flinstone TV movies  
Treasure Planet  
Heathcliff:TM  
Cool World  
Dinosaur  
Oliver and Company  
Johnny Appleseed

Good Memories, Bad Movies:

Goossens’ Asterix and Tin tin movies  
The Black Cauldron

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/7 "2003-11-04T11:22:04Z")

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I’d have to disagree with Heavy Metal and Yellow Submarine.

Heavy Metal is a precursor to Liquid Television and the independent animation studios of today. It may not be especially amazing, but it is fairly historically significant. Also, the soundtrack rocked.

Yellow Submarine is, besides an inspired piece of psychadelia and pop culture, technically interesting, being animated based on rectangles and not circles and ovals like normal drawings. It also has direct influences on much modern post-anime drawings. See the Gorillaz music videos for a more direct example.

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/8 "2003-11-04T11:55:14Z")

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I’m also surprised so many people have such a low opinion of _Yellow Submarine_. Maybe it hasn’t aged well…did you guys see it recently, or years ago.

In addition to what **E-Sabbath** said about the animation some people have found the music to be timelessly classic.

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/9 "2003-11-04T11:56:27Z")

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that should be:

…did you guys see it recently, or years ago\*\*?\*\*

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/10 "2003-11-04T12:37:24Z")

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I saw it recently on DVD

As a period piece it may be interesting, heck, I could even call it a decent collection of music video’s but as a sum of it’s parts I consider it a bad movie. The story is slow, disjointed and the whole thing starts to drag after about 30 minutes.

Ahead of it’s time but a little too far back for me, I guess.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/11 "2003-11-04T12:38:32Z")

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more or less everyone in the top 10 animated films will disagree, but I hated Toy Story 1 & 2. I turned the first one off after 30 minutes because it was bugging me, and against better judgement gave the 2nd one a try, and did the same after 15 mins. bad films IMO, although theres nothing wrong with the animation from an aesthetic POV.

oliver & co I hated too, when my mum took me to the cinema way back when. aside from that, i tend to like most cartoons/animated films. i’ll even watch Ferngully if its on.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/12 "2003-11-04T12:55:39Z")

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I can’t believe these choices – many of these flicks were technically excellent, and the stories well told. Give me bad Disney over, say, **The Last Unicorn** anyday. I find Rankin-Bass (“Rank and Base”, I say) cel animation (as opposed to their dimensional animation) to be particularly bad, and **The Hobbit** and **Return of the King** are good examples. The Japanese/American co=production (under Sanrio, makers of “Hello Kitty”) **Metamorphoses** (aka **Winds of Change** is pretty bad, too, which is a shame. It coulda been great, and should have been – a re-telling of myths from Ovid, they had top animators lined up (some of whom worked on “Fantasia”), and a rock score by major talent. But it’s slow-moving and awful.

There were a lot iof foreign animated films dubbed into English and run at kiddie mayinees when I was little. Some of these might be relatively good, but the poor dubbing stays in my mind:

\*\*Alakazaam the Great  
The Adventures of Pinocchio Beyond the Moon \*\* (no fooling!)  
Although it has a lot of great stuff in it (and the animation is top-notch), I have to admit that the generally depressing atmosphere of Bruno Bozzetto’s **Allegro Non Troppo** really got me down.

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**Author:** ![bayonet1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bayonet1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bayonet1976)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/13 "2003-11-04T13:18:42Z")

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You haven’t seen truly bad animated movies until you’ve seen any animated movie that came out of the USSR. I was subjected to this crap by having the misfortune of living in a communist country, and truly, give me your Yellow Submarines, your Heavy Metals, your Pokemon. Ok, maybe not your Pokemons.

There’s nothing quite as bad as a bad amimated movie discussing the communist dialectic.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/14 "2003-11-04T13:24:11Z")

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Both _treasure Planet_ and the upcoming _Brother Bear_ a great candidates for being the _Waterworld_ of animated films.

Uninspired ideas, badly-written scripts, and boring overall, they were also expensive to make.  
And then there’s the _Lion King_ debacle.

Go here–

> **[エアコンクリーニングおすすめランキング～みんなの評判とお掃除のプロが本気で評価](http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm/)**
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> エアコンを汚れたまま放置しておくと、カビが生えて次のようなデメリットが生じるのです。 ・効きが悪くなって電気代 \[…\]

To read about some _very_ shady stuff at the House Of Mouse.

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/15 "2003-11-04T13:50:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bayonet1976 \*  
> \*\*You haven’t seen truly bad animated movies until you’ve seen any animated movie that came out of the USSR. \*\*

Sure the USSR had it share of lousy (propoganda) animation but I have to speak up for russian animators like Norstein, Khitruk and Nazarov who have created some of the best (short) animation there is.

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**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/16 "2003-11-04T14:24:26Z")

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If Cool World counts as an animated feature, it’s up there.

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/17 "2003-11-04T14:49:42Z")

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\<anime dork mode\>  
Sentou Yuusei Yukikaze. Don’t ask. Just don’t ask. _shudders_  
\</anime dork mode\>

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/18 "2003-11-04T15:31:56Z")

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Any Warsaw Pact animation. Ever. Cheap animation–makes Pokemon or Clutch Cargo seem high-budget. Incoherent stories. Humor so far beyond “lame” as to render the Smurfs funny by comparison.

[Krusty]

“What the hell was THAT?”

[/Krusty]

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/19 "2003-11-04T17:49:06Z")

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Spirit  
Pocahontas  
Beauty and the Beast  
Raggedy Ann & Andy: A Musical Adventure  
The Little Mermaid  
Song of the South  
Star Wars Episode Two  
Star Wars Episode One  
The Hunchback of Notre Dame  
Bedknobs and Broomsticks

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bottom-ten-animated-films/211314/20 "2003-11-04T17:58:52Z")

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Well, after reading Bosda’s links, I gotta put The Lion King near the top of my list.

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