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(And if you think the water is warm, you are in for a surprise.)
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You weren’t supposed to tell him that! You wait for them to go into the water, then take a picture of the results.
[QUOTE=cher3]
Gah!
Southern California does not equal L.A.
(And if you think the water is warm, you are in for a surprise.)
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Well, warmer. Based on this chart , it looks like August at Newport Beach the water is 70 degrees; August at Santa Cruz, 60 degrees.
[QUOTE=JKellyMap]
Northern Californians are smart, earthy, generous, and hip. Southern Californians are dumber than rocks. Unfortunately, thanks to Hollywood, much of the world equates “U.S. Citizen” with “Southern Californian”.
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To be fair, NYC also gets a great deal of exposure in movies and TV. I’m sure there are millions of people on the planet who, from watching American movies, believe that most Americans live in skyscrapers and take the subway to work, when that is actually an extremely atypical lifestyle for the country as a whole.
[QUOTE=JKellyMap]
Northern Californians are smart, earthy, generous, and hip. Southern Californians are dumber than rocks. Unfortunately, thanks to Hollywood, much of the world equates “U.S. Citizen” with “Southern Californian”.
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Northern California: Behind the Granola Curtain. Hypocrites par excellence. “Free Speech” for everybody except those who question the Left. Still think it’s 1967. Can’t drive, can’t think, socialist whiners or Silicon Valley geeks.
Southern California: Sets trends, doesn’t follow them. Best Mexican food on the planet. Best weather in the country (Good job, San Diego!). If you can’t find it in Greater Los Angeles, you don’t need it. Better food, better art, better baseball teams…face it, SoCal does everything better than that part of the state that exists north of Bakersfield. Everything.
I live near Visalia - between Bakersfield and Fresno. I consider much farther north from Fresno to be North. It’s so ungodly, detestably hot in the Central Valley. Once you get to the part where it’s not REGULARLY 105 Fahrenheit in the summer, it’s NoCal. Christ, I miss San Francisco. Wearing a jacket in the summer is heaven!
Joe
I reluctanly admit that Santa Barbara is in SoCal. The NoCal/SoCal border is between Nipomo and Santa Maria. I guess we should just make it the Santa Maria River. I defer to my buddies in SLOtown to allow then NoCal membership. Note that the fact that I use the term NoCal makes me a de facto SoCalifornian.
Realistically, Big Sur is a fine defining point for NoCal/SoCal. Do we get it? Just give us all of Los Padres National Forest. I love Yosemite, but I guess that that goes to NoCal, but we get Sequoia and King’s Canyon.
However, when the state gets divided up I’m all for Santa Barbara being in Central California. We get Mammoth lakes, but not Fresno. Ventura is a cool town, but is increasingly a suburb of LA. As I always tell everyone, we are geographically isolated from LA. One could argue that the Conejo grade is would be the border of central California, thus allowing Ventura into Central California. But by that standard, we would have to accept Simi Valley, home of the Ronald Reagan Library whose website appears to have been designed in the 1980’s. Yeah, I know Ronnie had a ranch in Santa Barbara and there is some huge Ronald Reagan museum in town, but I didn’t vote for him.
[QUOTE=silenus]
Northern California: Behind the Granola Curtain. Hypocrites par excellence. “Free Speech” for everybody except those who question the Left. Still think it’s 1967. Can’t drive, can’t think, socialist whiners or Silicon Valley geeks.
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About as accurate as you might expect from someone who admits he never goes north of San Luis Obispo.
Good description of Santa Cruz, though. God, that place is annoying.
[QUOTE=silenus]
Northern California: Behind the Granola Curtain. Hypocrites par excellence. “Free Speech” for everybody except those who question the Left. Still think it’s 1967. Can’t drive, can’t think, socialist whiners or Silicon Valley geeks.
Southern California: Sets trends, doesn’t follow them. Best Mexican food on the planet. Best weather in the country (Good job, San Diego!). If you can’t find it in Greater Los Angeles, you don’t need it. Better food, better art, better baseball teams…face it, SoCal does everything better than that part of the state that exists north of Bakersfield. Everything.
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Especially humility!!
Pompous, self-absorbed, close-minded SoCal jerk! 
I’m willing to accept Monterey, but only if we get our goddamn water back as well.
Sooooo. . . you’re saying that Redding is SoCal?
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]
I’m willing to accept Monterey, but only if we get our goddamn water back as well.
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When it becomes feasible for a California politician to stand up and say, “You know, we really have to stop allowing all these new people to come here, now”, and do something about rampant population growth, then we can talk about the water. Until then, go away, we’re using it.
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Sooooo. . . you’re saying that Redding is SoCal?
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We’ll say whatever we have to if it means someone will take Redding off our hands. What a hellhole.
Growing up we always felt that NorCal ended at Sacto and SoCal was south of Santa Monica, everything else was CentCal.
It was far more entertaining than Chicagoland versus the rest of the state.
[QUOTE=Giraffe]
We’ll say whatever we have to if it means someone will take Redding off our hands. What a hellhole.
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Except when you compare it to San Jose, then it looks like Paradise.
[QUOTE=kidchameleon]
Except when you compare it to San Jose, then it looks like Paradise.
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This right here defines someone who has never been to Redding. San Jose is nothing special to be sure, but worse than Redding? Pshaw.
[QUOTE=Giraffe]
This right here defines someone who has never been to Redding. San Jose is nothing special to be sure, but worse than Redding? Pshaw.
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Been there? I was born there, with the gentle flowing Sacramento River and a mysterious snowfall in April, oh that was a beautiful day. And these days you’ve got mountains nearby and a Best Buy, life doesn’t get any better.
Redding is North Fresno.
[QUOTE=silenus]
Southern California: . . . If you can’t find it in Greater Los Angeles, you don’t need it.
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Like . . . water?
[QUOTE=Airblairxxx]
Like . . . water?
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Hey, if I need water, I’ll go to the store and buy it in little plastic bottles, the way God intended!
[QUOTE=dwc1970]
Northern Idaho is also still reeling from its stigma in being associated with KKK/skinheads/Neo Nazi’s/Aryan Nations/White Supremacists or whatever they’re called, even though the David Butler compound there was torn down years ago and the group was bankrupted.
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. . . Which is why when I was in school in the early '90s in Montana, Idaho was broken into Mormon Idaho (the South) and Nazi-Occupied Idaho (the North). 