# Bowdlerized for broadcast

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 21, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794 "2007-01-21T03:45:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/21 "2007-01-21T17:41:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.]  
The two ones I remember are _ **The Exorcist** _:

Original line: You mother sucks cocks in Hell!  
Dubbed line: **Your mother still rots in Hell!**

And _ **National Lampoon’s Vacation** _. I don’t remember if they dubbed it, or just cut it out for broadcast, but the line was **Daddy says I kiss best.**  
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And in the “Saturday Night Live” skit with Richard Pryor: “Your mother sews socks that smell!”

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/22 "2007-01-21T17:52:42Z")

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“The Big Lebowski,” per IMDB. I’ve never seen this version, but a friend of mine reported the dub mentioned below. I chalk this up to the Coen’s sense of humor.

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> In the TV version of the movie, there are many edited words, seeing as the word “fuck” is used over 200 times in the movie, but the most noticible change is when John Goodman smashes the car and screams “You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?” In the TV version he says “You see what happens when you have fun with a stranger in the Alps?”

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/23 "2007-01-21T18:49:15Z")

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When WTBS used to broadcast\* Live and Let Die\*, they would edit out the racial comments “Spades…every single one of them…” but leave in everything else.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/24 "2007-01-21T19:24:52Z")

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[QUOTE=zagloba]  
It’s pretty amazing they even try to show a Kevin Smith flick on a channel where they have to censor language.  
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Same for Mel Brooks. Comedy Central will sometimes show _History of the World Part I_, and well over half the jokes are just snipped out, like one of Mel’s jokes during his stand-up routine.

Unedited scene (from memory, so it may be off):  
Mel: We Romans are rich, we got a lot of gods, we got a god for everything. Only thing we don’t have a god for is premature ejaculation. But I hear that that’s coming quickly!  
_rimshot_ _laughter from the audience_

Edited scene:  
Mel: We Romans are rich, we got a lot of gods, we got a god for everything.  
_rimshot_ _laughter from the audience_

:dubious: The only reason I can even watch it is I’ve seen the unedited version so often that I can fill in the blanks myself, but it just baffles me that they even bother.

Now, _Dogma_’s edited form doesn’t suffer a whole lot, IIRC. There’s a couple of dubbed words and at least one deleted scene, but on the whole it’s pretty tame for a Kevin Smith flick.

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**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/25 "2007-01-21T20:37:55Z")

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Has anyone seen Harry Enfields **“Badfellas”** sketch?

You can find it (about one minute twenty seconds) by searching on “enfield badfellas” on Youtube.

_"And now on BBC2 Martin Scorcese’s highly aclaimed film_ Badfellas. _Viewers might like to know that this film has been specially ruined for television"._

Snort.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/26 "2007-01-21T20:42:36Z")

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Worst if Comedy Central and it’s butchery of Blazing Saddles. The Fart Noises are replaced by IIRC- crickets. Note that Fart noises will make it into PG films.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/27 "2007-01-21T20:54:38Z")

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[QUOTE=BayleDomon]  
Same for Mel Brooks. Comedy Central will sometimes show _History of the World Part I_, and well over half the jokes are just snipped out, like one of Mel’s jokes during his stand-up routine.

Unedited scene (from memory, so it may be off):  
Mel: We Romans are rich, we got a lot of gods, we got a god for everything. Only thing we don’t have a god for is premature ejaculation. But I hear that that’s coming quickly!  
_rimshot_ _laughter from the audience_

Edited scene:  
Mel: We Romans are rich, we got a lot of gods, we got a god for everything.  
_rimshot_ _laughter from the audience_  
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_Blazing Saddles_ on Family Channel:

> [@](#):
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> I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City _horses_.

I changed the channel after that.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/28 "2007-01-21T21:43:56Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
Worst if Comedy Central and it’s butchery of Blazing Saddles. The Fart Noises are replaced by IIRC- crickets. Note that Fart noises will make it into PG films.  
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Fart noises are even in kids’ cartoons now.

[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
Blazing Saddles on Family Channel:  
Quote:  
I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City horses.

I changed the channel after that.  
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Expressed homophobia (even from a bigoted character) is a newer censorship taboo. CBS showed **Blazing Saddles** in the early 80’s with the “Kansas City _faggots_” line intact.

As for bad bowdlerization, when \*\*LA Confidential \*\* was on CBS a few years ago, it was painfully obvious they didn’t get Russell Crowe to redub his lines for the fit-for-American-network-TV version.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/29 "2007-01-21T22:08:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
The skanky cousin says something like “I know how to french kiss.” The daughter says something like “everyone knows how to do that” and the cousin says “Yeah, but daddy says I’m the best.”  
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The dubbed version I heard was “Yeah, but my science teacher says I’m the best”

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/30 "2007-01-21T22:34:39Z")

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Some directors intentionally refilm scenes for TV/airline edits, including _Repo Man_ (“melonfarmer,” among others) and _Sideways_ (in which all instances of “asshole” are replaced with “Ashcroft.”)

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/31 "2007-01-21T22:39:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
I was disappointed while watching _Hustler White_ on here! yesterday to learn that they had excised the amputee penetration shot. I tried to figure out why they would cut the shot but I was stumped.  
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That may be the worst pun I’ve ever seen. It was so bad in fact that I may have been the only person to see it. If I had popcorn I’d be pelting you with it.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/32 "2007-01-21T22:49:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF]  
That may be the worst pun I’ve ever seen. It was so bad in fact that I may have been the only person to see it. If I had popcorn I’d be pelting you with it.  
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I was beginning to wonder if anyone would notice. But they really _did_ cut the amputee penetration scene and considering that it’s a premium subscription channel it really pisses me off. Not that I ever really _need_ to see the scene again (seared into my brain forever, thanks) but censorship sucks.

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/33 "2007-01-21T23:44:26Z")

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[QUOTE=mobo85]  
Some directors intentionally refilm scenes for TV/airline edits, including _Repo Man_ (“melonfarmer,” among others) and _Sideways_ (in which all instances of “asshole” are replaced with “Ashcroft.”)  
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But is that bowdlerization or political commentary?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/34 "2007-01-21T23:57:38Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
Worst if Comedy Central and it’s butchery of Blazing Saddles. The Fart Noises are replaced by IIRC- crickets. Note that Fart noises will make it into PG films.  
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It wasn’t Comedy Central’s doing, do you really think they would shy away from that? That cut of the film is older than the CC station itself, they just likely didn’t want to invest in making their own edit.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/35 "2007-01-22T00:39:51Z")

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When TBS showed _High Planes Drifter_ years ago, they did an edit that was good in theory, but bad in execution. In the original line, a townsman rips on the sheriff by saying “…and seeing as how our Sheriff’s about as much use as tits on a boar…” The TBS version said “…and seeing as how our Sheriff’s about as much use as **boots** on a boar…” Unfortunately, the voice actor who said “boots” sounded absolutely nothing like the original actor. It also sounded like he was using an exaggerated Texas accent.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/36 "2007-01-22T01:21:18Z")

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Easily the worst carving up I’ve seen of a movie was the hatchet job and re-arrangement of scenes when CBS first ran John Carpenter’s **The Thing**. They cut out almost every single scene where the Thing appears!! (even though it certainly wasn’t sexual. Or, in most cases, technically violent. Just gross.) Then they took scenese of the burning Norwegian camp and of the husky running (from the beginning) and stuck the at the end to suggest that The Thing got away in the form of a dog – something that didn’t happen in the movie. (Judging from some recent entries, this ending at least has shown up elsewhere. It ain’t part of Carpenter’s film.) Later re-edits didn’t do as much violence to the film, but did add unnecessary voiceover narration)

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/37 "2007-01-22T01:56:24Z")

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[QUOTE=thelurkinghorror]  
It wasn’t Comedy Central’s doing, do you really think they would shy away from that? That cut of the film is older than the CC station itself, they just likely didn’t want to invest in making their own edit.  
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Someone has done a recut, though. I’ve seen on TV it almost completely intact within the past couple of years but can’t remember where.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/38 "2007-01-22T03:01:49Z")

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Ferris Bueller’s Day off was a good example.

“If you put a lump of coal up his ass, in two weeks you’d have a diamond”

becomes

“If you put a lump of coal in his hand, in two weeks…”

Then there’s Smokey and the Bandit…WTF is a crumb bum?

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/39 "2007-01-22T03:46:30Z")

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While we’re on the subject of Bowdlerization - I don’t have HBO and as such never got to see the Sopranos. Is it worth watching the A&E repeats that just started? If they’re hacked up beyond recognition I won’t bother and just get the DVDs on Netflix eventually.

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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bowdlerized-for-broadcast/388794/40 "2007-01-22T05:07:34Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
\< snip\>I can’t wait until they show _Deadwood_ on basic cable. Al Swearingen will be reduced to a bit part, and Mr. Wu will just about have to go entirely. In fact, they’ll probably be able to show the whole series in about fifteen minutes.  
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California rock sucker? 😛

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