# Boxing question - Dorin vs Spadafora
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 18, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083 "2003-05-18T18:32:48Z")
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### Author:  [@theretsof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theretsof)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/1 "2003-05-18T18:32:48Z")
I cannot believe that I cannot find this info on the web - but…
The judges called this Saturday’s bout a draw: 113-115 Dorin, 115-114 Spadafora, and the third judge 114-114.
My question: What’s up with 115-114? (9_12) + (10_12) = 228, but 115+114 = 229. Therefore, one of the judges called one of the rounds 10-10? Was there not a must 9 rule for this bout?
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### Author:  [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/2 "2003-05-18T19:42:25Z")
Where’d you get that information? That’s not what ESPN reported:
[http://espn.go.com/boxing/s/2003/0517/1555841.html](http://espn.go.com/boxing/s/2003/0517/1555841.html)
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### Author:  [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/3 "2003-05-18T19:46:01Z")
This board is the absolute worst place to get any useful boxing info. There are boxing message boards around that have actual fans that can provide better results. Trust me.
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### Author:  [@theretsof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theretsof)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/4 "2003-05-18T19:59:05Z")
Earl, I think I agree with you on the boxing info bit. But, BTW, check this out:
[http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/2003/0517/1555799.html](http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/2003/0517/1555799.html)
Also ESPN, but they report the scoring differently than in your link — who knows what’s going on.
BUT!!! Do you know if a judge is allowed to score a round 10-10? In a 10 pt must system?
“But judge Pat Russell of California scored it 115-113 Dorin, judge Gueremo Perez of Panama had it 115-114 Spadafora, and judge Gary Merritt of Indiana had a 114-114 draw, the first time either fighter hasn’t come out a winner in his pro career.”
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### Author:  [@theretsof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theretsof)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/5 "2003-05-18T20:04:31Z")
Also, I watched the fight this morning, and they announced it as 114-115. Multiple articles reported it as such. Time to ask Max Kellerman 🙂
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### Author:  [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/6 "2003-05-18T20:30:24Z")
Well, I think it’ll be on again this evening. I’ll tape it and see if they offer any insight in the scoring rules.
And so far as 10-10 rounds–yep, it’s allowable. Not really that common, but it’s allowable. (Or even rarer, 9-9 rounds.)
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### Author:  [@theretsof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theretsof)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boxing-question-dorin-vs-spadafora/176083/7 "2003-05-18T20:51:23Z")
Yep, seems to be allowed and rare:
[http://www.iska.com/kickboxing/officials\_forum41900a.htm](http://www.iska.com/kickboxing/officials_forum41900a.htm)
“Most fans of combative sports are familiar with the “10 point must” system used in boxing, and borrowed in the early years by kickboxing. It’s a scoring system by which each judge must award the winner of a round 10 points, and the loser 9 points or less (with 10-10 allowable for even rounds)…”