# Boy am I glad I didn't know this about you until I was moving outta the neighborhood! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181 "2003-02-28T18:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![darksight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@darksight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darksight)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/41 "2003-03-03T10:17:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > \*\*The guys I’m buying from happen to conform to the “fabulous decorators!” stereotype. Since I don’t have the slightest issue with homosexuality, and in fact have been attracted to gay men since childhood (as friends, I’m not sublimating my sexuality into unavailable objects to feel safe), I don’t see that there is any problem with mentioning it. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. And saying “the guys I’m buying from are gay and one is a costumer” when that information is intended to convey the fact that the people I’m buying from have a certain gay-stereotypical sense of style is value-neutral in my world. I was reminded that it isn’t in other people’s. > > But even knowing that, it wouldn’t stop me from mentioning it. Acting like it’s something that should be kept hidden just perpetuates crappy attitudes. Perhaps if the Harrys of the world encounter more and more people who are perfectly comfortable with homosexuality, they will start to re-think their attitudes. That’s how we’ve come as far as we have, and it’s the only way we will go farther still. > > And to reiterate: many gay men do not conform to one single gay stereotype. Can’t cook, aren’t witty, hate show tunes, have zero style, and come off like any other dumpy, average straight guy. But it is dishonest in the service of political correctness to contend that none do, or that such stereotypes have no basis in reality. \*\* See it seems to me that you have a problem and its not being gay. Have you ever met one of those religious types that say Jesus 3 times in every sentence? See you and those types, whatever the obsession, is the only thing that matters. It seems to me you could have been hood winked here. Imagine for a second that the seller finds a house with religious paintings right on the walls or a house in shape of a cross or something. My lord we got to find us a Southern Baptist quick or this will never sell. They fact that you are so proud of yourself for finding a house where everyone involved in selling you the house was gay is quite strange to me. But whatever makes you happy dude, just don’t expect everyone to understand why you paid twice the value of the house just cause it was a gay house. Shhhhh there is a gay mafia ~ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/42 "2003-03-03T19:29:18Z")
Um, **Stoid** is a woman. I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say with your post, either. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/43 "2003-03-03T19:39:56Z")
How is the neighbor a hypocrite? I just find this to be one of the most over- and misused adjectives in recent memory. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/44 "2003-03-03T19:58:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by darksight \* > \*\*Shhhhh there is a gay mafia ~ \*\* How do you tell it’s the Gay Mafia? The Kiss of Death is on the lips…with tongue! Thank You! I’ll be here all week [sub]I’m at work[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/45 "2003-03-03T22:10:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*How is the neighbor a hypocrite? > > I just find this to be one of the most over- and misused adjectives in recent memory. \*\* Now that you mention it, **Stoid** probably meant “double standard”. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/46 "2003-03-04T01:48:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by darksight \* > \*\* > It seems to me you could have been hood winked here. > > They fact that you are so proud of yourself for finding a house where everyone involved in selling you the house was gay is quite strange to me. > > But whatever makes you happy dude, just don’t expect everyone to understand why you paid twice the value of the house just cause it was a gay house. > > \*\* Gee, could you make a few more enormous leaps? A: I’m a woman. B: “Proud” and “pleased” are not synonymous. I’m pleased. As a general rule, I enjoy gay men. C: Where do you get the “twice the value”? As it happens, I made a bit of a killing (I think…the inspection is tomorrow, maybe it’s falling down!). The house is beautfiul to begin with, beautifully cared for and updated, on a particularly good street in a very hot-and-getting-hotter-by-the-minute neighborhood, and they sold it for \* at least \* 30K less than they could have easily gotten. And \*\* Jeff, \*\* you are probably right. Harry would be a hypocrite in this situation if he was actually fucking men and despised and derided other people fucking men. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/47 "2003-03-04T02:15:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > \*\* My agent lives down the street from me, and we both live down the street from some of the biggest gay bars in the valley. > > And as a result, MY property values are going to go through the roof while Harry’s will languish. Living well is the best revenge.\*\* It’s not entirely obvious why living down the street from “some of the biggest” bars of any type would enhance your property values compared to Harry’s, unless he’s living on the edge of a toxic waste dump. Harry (who is, obviously, a jerk) may have felt the need to rattle your chain with his inane comments because you went out of your way to mention the sexual orientation of the former owners of your new home - possibly to indicate how WAY cool you are. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/48 "2003-03-04T03:30:38Z")
Hardly, Jack. Does that count for “Way cool” in your neck of the woods? I believe I’ve explained why I mentioned it at least twice already. And the multiple gay bars, coupled with at least three gay homes on my block alone, tend to indicate a neighborhood that is trending gay. In L.A., neighborhoods that become popular with gay men have consistently become better neighborhoods,often dramatically better, depending on where they started from, and the property values have gone up dramatically thereafter. ---
**Author:** ![darksight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@darksight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darksight)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/49 "2003-03-04T07:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > \*\*A: I’m a woman. > . \*\* DOH ~! Well that explains everything! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181/50 "2003-03-04T13:03:41Z")
And having “some of the biggest bars” (of any type) just down the street, tends to indicate to me a neighborhood that has to deal with noise, parking problems, litter and drunks pissing on the lawn. I hope for your sake the bars are _way_ down the street. This crowing over the expectation that someone else’s property values will decline relative to yours seems…I don’t know, Stoid…so _bourgeois_. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-am-i-glad-i-didnt-know-this-about-you-until-i-was-moving-outta-the-neighborhood/158181.md?page=2)