# Boy Scout 11 is back!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153 "2004-08-16T22:15:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/1 "2004-08-16T22:15:19Z")

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I haven’t been on the boards for a couple of days, and i come back to discover that he’s picked up just where he left off

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5173429&postcount=160](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5173429&postcount=160)

I look forward to the renewed unity of purpose we previously showed in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/2 "2004-08-16T22:49:42Z")

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That’s odd. I thought he said he was leaving. Or am I just showing an inability to read and comprehend what he’s written?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/3 "2004-08-16T22:50:57Z")

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Once again, we have all twisted and turned his words :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/4 "2004-08-17T14:53:34Z")

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Apparently he can hold his breath for four days. Turning blue didn’t seem to impress anyone. So, he’s back.

Wow. 21 posts in one day, mostly to his DU weapons thread. 21 posts, and _no cites_ for any of the opinions he posted, in spite of numerous requests for cites… then that guy with the big-ass whompin’ clue stick completely _missed_ BS11 in [SentientMeat’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5174935#post5174935) latest Political Compass thread…

> [@SentientMeat](#):
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> Furthermore, I politely request other posters not to respond to BoyScout here either.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/5 "2004-08-17T17:39:39Z")

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See, kiddies? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=270492) is what happens when your tinfoil hat is too tight.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/6 "2004-08-17T20:21:43Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> See, kiddies? [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=270492) is what happens when your tinfoil hat is too tight.

Not tinfoil. Aluminum foil! \* Tinfoil leeches testosterone and other precious bodily fluids from the scalp follicles.\* This causes the male thought vibrations to weaken and puts us more at risk of being controlled by the governments orbital Q-pattern discs. \*\* You’ve seen them! They fly overhead at sundown to take readings when solar-cosmic rays are at their minimum in the oblique angular range!\*\* It’s true! I’ve got the proof but if I post it my the CIA alert chip in my computer will forward it directly to Donald Trump.

It’s all revealed at my proxy-secured, encrypted website [Thegovernmentisinmyspleen.com](http://Thegovernmentisinmyspleen.com) (The password is the 37th through 43rd digits of pi, **rendered in base nine!**

Making that stuff up gives me a headache.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/7 "2004-08-17T20:37:03Z")

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ARGH!

Thanks. Couldn’t say that in GD.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/8 "2004-08-17T20:49:48Z")

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[Hoo boy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=271745).

This should be interesting, to say the least. What the hell is he talking about?

Apparently, to him:

> [@](#):
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> Well gosh, let me see. According to some of the more obtuse posters, a debate is when anyone posts something and then he sites why it is true. LOL
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> OK, for those of you that seem not to understand, a debate is means, to offer opposing points of view and yes, it even means someone can say something different and if others want to join the debate, they offer an opposing point of view and hey, they can even offer someone elses thinking, such as that from another web site, IE: someone elses thinking, because that poster is not smart enough or has not had enough lived experiences to use their own arguements.
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> I know this is going to be hard for some of you to understand, but if one person presents a subject and his thoughts on that subject, that if you want to get into that debate, it is up to you, to either offer common sense and the intelligence of your own mind, along with your lived experiences, or call on someone elses site to argue for you. If the origional poster is made to prove his own points, THAT ISD CALLED A LESSON.

Can anyone translate that from Moron to English for me?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/9 "2004-08-17T20:55:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Can anyone translate that from Moron to English for me?

I don’t know, I’m just an obtuse poster.

Actually, he’s just confusing GQ for IMHO. He wants to discuss weighty issues without having to provide any cites for his opinions, and keeps doing it in GQ. People step up to the plate, provide him with a cite that shows he’s incorrect, and he just keeps talking from his own knowledge and experience, which would be fine… in IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/10 "2004-08-17T21:25:42Z")

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Eh…his comeback was short lived. Our very own **Gaudere** has sent him to the Land of the Banned.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/11 "2004-08-17T21:27:49Z")

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I probably should have banned him right off, but I had a glimmer of hope that he could learn to argue better after some lessons from the GDers and he would watch his step after a warning. It appears I was wrong about that.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/12 "2004-08-17T21:29:56Z")

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When I saw that big fat “BANNED” under his name I felt like a great big weight had been lifted from my shoulders. Aaaaaaahh.

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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/13 "2004-08-17T21:31:50Z")

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Oh man, he just paid his dues and now he’s banned. Ah well.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/14 "2004-08-17T21:38:24Z")

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DARN! I felt like he was so close, but that dang clue stick just kept… missing… the target…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/15 "2004-08-17T22:06:55Z")

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> [@Gaudere](#):
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> I probably should have banned him right off, but I had a glimmer of hope that he could learn to argue better after some lessons from the GDers and he would watch his step after a warning. It appears I was wrong about that.

I’m not asking you to name names, but has anyone ever come out swinging like that from the get go, and then cleaned up his act? Hard to imagine… He had such a clear and profound persecution complex that it was only a matter of time.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/16 "2004-08-17T22:41:30Z")

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> [@Chairman Pow](#):
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> Oh man, he just paid his dues and now he’s banned. Ah well.

I personally will reimburse him for his dues if he promises never to come back under another name, a different ISP, etc.

In fact, I may throw in a couple of extra bucks if he un-bookmarks SDMB and never even calls up this site again.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/17 "2004-08-17T23:47:37Z")

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What got me the most about that curious lad was his shitting in one of **SentientMeat** ’s ‘Political Compass’ threads. Probably the best ‘organized’ and layed-out series of threads I have seen here, and Boy Wonder comes along and just starts tearing on them. The mind boggles.

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/18 "2004-08-18T00:29:22Z")

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My favorite part of the whole ordeal was right before the Big Moment. When he started a thread in Great Debates entitled “What is a debate?”, I was really hoping that a mod would lock the thread and say “This belongs in GQ.”

Twisting his words (I won’t deny it, I was a mean son of a bitch) was a ton of fun, especially the riff about horses. I am a little dismayed that he lost his cool before we could educate him about the mechanics of a debate, but them’s the breaks.

Quick aside: is there a place on this message board that I can direct a newbie if they honestly _don’t_ understand what a debate is, or what our customs are regarding them?

On the whole, I look forward to doing it again sometime soon. I can only hope that we’ll continue to attract such fine candidates for the position. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/19 "2004-08-18T00:31:36Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> My favorite part of the whole ordeal was right before the Big Moment. When he started a thread in Great Debates entitled “What is a debate?”, I was really hoping that a mod would lock the thread and say “This belongs in GQ.”

😃

I must say, you really were spectacular throughout that thread.

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**Author:** ![Graycat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Graycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Graycat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scout-11-is-back/260153/20 "2004-08-18T00:49:03Z")

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I too was in awe at your posts throughout, **Jurph** , not least because those detailed point-by-point rebuttals to his post required you to actually _read_ his posts. I gave up looking for coherence after I think his third post, and read them by reading your rebuttals.

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