# Boy Scouts of America files for bankruptcy **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 18, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108 "2020-02-18T09:50:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/101 "2020-02-20T14:06:11Z")
I’m an Eagle Scout but have absolutely no respect for them and hope that they A ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/102 "2020-02-20T14:40:06Z")
> [@robby](#): > > The little bits of ceremonial deism present in the Boy Scouts, in public life in the U.S., and even the [military oath of office](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Uniformed_Services_Oath_of_Office) that I took don’t bother me too much. That’s great, but ceremonial deism really pisses me and some others off. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/103 "2020-02-20T14:41:57Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I’m an Eagle Scout but have absolutely no respect for them and hope that they A I was never a Scout, but I say they can F O. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/104 "2020-02-20T15:15:49Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I’m an Eagle Scout but have absolutely no respect for them and hope that they A It looks like they got to TokyoBayer … once you are an Eagle Scout, you can never leave, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/105 "2020-02-20T15:51:14Z")
> [@robby](#): > > You’re missing the point. A volunteer organization can’t make radical changes in policy without first building a consensus. You keep saying this, I keep mentioning that the national organization holds all the cards, and you can’t give me a single reason the national organization _can’t_ force the bigots to stop using the Boy Scouts trademarks. The only possible reason is that they don’t want the bigots gone that badly. > [@](#): > > Not all people are reasonable. Sometimes you have to work with unreasonable people for the greater good. BSA just lost a lot of members due to the choice to accept LGBT people. > > And don’t forget that the people who are most affected aren’t the adults making these decisions; it’s the youth who are caught in the crossfire. It can’t have been an easy decision to lose several hundred thousand Scouts because they happen to belong to an intolerant church. And it’s not like these youth chose to belong to that intolerant church – these are kids we’re talking about. So what’s the greater good, here? Teaching kids that being out in the woods is more important than accepting other human beings? > [@](#): > > Also, in case it’s not clear, I don’t know anyone who is abandoning the BSA because it is intolerant. It’s pretty easy to find a tolerant BSA unit in my experience. The people who are leaving are those who are upset that the Boy Scouts are allowing LGBTQ adults and youth to join. If that’ true, the BSA is being craven in the name of catering to people who are leaving anyway. > [@](#): > > I know it exists. That’s why I brought it up. So let me ask you: do you think Wendy’s is now ready to switch solely to meatless burgers? (FWIW, sales of BK’s Impossible Whopper have been recently been [slumping](https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/burger-king-franchisees-impossible-whopper-sales).) Again, humans aren’t patties. What Wendy’s does is and should be profit-driven, whereas what the BSA does should be driven by morality. > [@](#): > > You think not admitting LGBTQ members is immoral (as do I), but not everyone in America agrees with you (or me). > > You know, it wasn’t that long ago when [“Don’t ask, don’t tell” (DADT)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask,_don%27t_tell) was considered to be an advancement in LGBTQ rights. The social landscape has changed fairly quickly in recent years. > > Since every BSA unit in the country is now free to allow openly gay youth and adults to join their units (and has been since 2015), I don’t see how you come to that conclusion. > > And I will add, it has been the unofficial policy for a long time before that in many units to ignore the old policy that prohibited openly gay leaders and youth. The gay Scout in my troop made Eagle Scout over a decade ago, several years before the policy was officially changed on the national level. If you don’t hold to your morality when it’s difficult, you don’t have morality. You have public opinion polling. The BSA holds itself out as being better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/106 "2020-02-20T16:09:11Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Well the girl scouts took religion out of their oaths and program years ago and has many lesbian leaders **(about half of the average GS scout camp staff)** and it hasnt helped grow their program. (bolding mine)Got a cite for this? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/107 "2020-02-20T16:13:47Z")
It’s worse than that. BSA has for years held a very publicly stated set of morals–among them bigotry against LGBT and atheists and girls. They held on to that fiercely, giving in on one bigotry or another when it was finally impossible to defend it. But at each stage, they strongly defend the bigotry they have left. You want children to learn about the pleasures of the outdoors? Why do you need an organization with principles other than “teach children about the pleasures of the outdoors in a safe and nurturing environment”? No outdoors-focused organization is need to teach children about reverence and obedience &c. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/108 "2020-02-20T16:14:37Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Question: did your troop do much camping? > > One of the many complaints many girls had with the GSA was it rarely did any camping or if they did, was kind of “wimpy” about it. Meaning they would pack up and go home if it looked like rain. > > Whereas my sons troop have camped in drenching rain, mud, snow, cold, heat, etc… I’ve always said it isnt really a true scout campout unless you get your shoes muddy. It was my understanding that the GSA was more about ‘girly’ things like service to the community or as **arquvan** said, becoming a debutante and if you were a girl more interested in hiking, woodcraft, and camping like the BSA is, you’d join the Camp Fire Girls. Looking the organization up on [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Fire_(organization)), I see that they’ve gone co-ed as well, and are now just “Camp Fire.” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/109 "2020-02-20T16:30:07Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > You want children to learn about the pleasures of the outdoors? Why do you need an organization with principles other than “teach children about the pleasures of the outdoors in a safe and nurturing environment”? No outdoors-focused organization is need to teach children about reverence and obedience &c. You misunderstand the point of the Boy Scouts. It’s not primarily to teach children about the pleasures of the outdoors. It’s to take advantage of boys’ love of the outdoors and outdoor activities to teach them character, leadership, and important life skills. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/110 "2020-02-20T16:42:40Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I have never seen any unit that discriminated against any boy, whether for sexual orientation or religious reasons (or any other reason). None have enforced the national organization’s requirement for religious belief, saying it was a personal matter. None enforced the prohibition against LGBT youth or leaders, even before the rules were finally changed on the national level. My current unit is chartered by a church, but it doesn’t push its faith on any of the boys in the unit. (Our family is nominally a member of a different faith entirely, but in reality we are non-religious.) > > On the other side of the ledger, Boy Scouts helped me and my son develop leadership skills, and also taught us about citizenship, first aid, emergency response, swimming/lifesaving, canoeing/kayaking, and outdoor skills. Every knot I know I learned in Boy Scouts. I learned how to hike, camp, cook in the outdoors, canoe, row, sleep outside in single-digit weather, and even how to downhill ski. […] > > […]Like all BSA troops, all of our leaders are volunteers, so our expenses are very low. We also do fundraising to offset expenses (car washes, a flower sale, and paper shredding). > > We also do community service, including minor projects like helping out the Town with spring cleanup and local hiking trail maintenance, as well as larger projects (often in conjunction with Eagle Scout service projects). > > I honestly think BSA has a lot to offer our youth and communities, and I haven’t seen any other organization that is comparable. It would be a real shame if it ever goes away. This is what I remember of Boy Scouts (minus the skiing; none of that here in Florida). I joined a dying troop on a whim at age 13 or so, I think there were four scouts total, two older than me and one my age. By the time I aged out of the program I think I was a First Class scout, but I was never motivated by rank. I think I was also SPL for a time. I learned a lot of useful skills, had lots of fun, and helped to train a whole new “generation” of kids in scouting, which I will always be proud of. Despite not being Christian, and despite our troop being heavily tied to a Methodist church, I never felt pressured to join their religion. I think I did sit through three or four services in all my years of scouting, but it was a very respectful thing. The services were non-denominational but still Christian. Nobody looked down on me or made me feel uncomfortable for not fully participating. I learned some about their religion and in turn I taught some of the practices from mine - I believe the whole troop came to one of my services. We didn’t have exposure to kids with nonstandard sexual orientation, but I didn’t have exposure to that at all back then. I don’t believe homosexuality ever came up as a dogmatic thing - BSA generally kept out of politics and hot topics. I think some of the newly recruited scouts made gay jokes (“that’s gay!”) but they always came across as dumb (“so what?” “chicken butt”). Such banter was _in vogue_ at the time - IMO, much better than “get raped” as a form of gloating from my younger days - but us older kids and the adults didn’t find it funny and lightly encouraged them to cut that shit out. Actually, now that I think about it, we did have a discussion early on that “morally straight” had nothing to do with sexual orientation. And the part about being “reverent”, that doesn’t mean revere God, that means respect other people’s beliefs. We occasionally camped with a girl. I don’t remember if she was a venture scout or someone’s sister or one of the leaders’ kids. Nobody cared, but she would bring her own tent and cook her own food like the adults (we had to budget and cook for just the boys). She was generally better than us at camping. Anyways, yeah, just some MPSIMS. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/111 "2020-02-20T16:45:13Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s worse than that. BSA has for years held a very publicly stated set of morals–among them bigotry against LGBT and atheists and girls. They held on to that fiercely, giving in on one bigotry or another when it was finally impossible to defend it. But at each stage, they strongly defend the bigotry they have left. DADT was the law of the land less than 10 years ago. Anti-gay marriage laws were legal 5 years ago. It is STILL legal for churches to discriminate against those who don’t ascribe to their views. What you say was “impossible” to defend had hundreds of millions of defenders. The BSA hasn’t showered themselves in Liberal glory, but their customer base has always been right of center, and a huge block of them have to be dragged kicking and screaming into modern times, which is not something the BSA has the power to do. (e.g. the Mormons) It’s not exactly simple to strip away the God bits when 75% of your membership is sponsored by churches. Church leadership can get a bit testy when you declare religion unimportant or incompatible with Scouting. \*I’m not sure what the ‘bigotry against girls’ thing is, they’ve had girls in various scouting activities for years, and the recent decision to open membership to girls was viewed (correctly, IMO) as a power play to poach membership from the Girl Scouts. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/112 "2020-02-20T17:27:43Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > You misunderstand the point of the Boy Scouts. It’s not primarily to teach children about the pleasures of the outdoors. I guess we should tell that to the folks, some of them in this thread and past threads about the Boy Scouts, who seem to be primarily interested in the organization for its giving kids the opportunity to do outdoor stuff. > [@](#): > > It’s to take advantage of boys’ love of the outdoors and outdoor activities to teach them character, leadership, and important life skills. Well, okay, then, then it’s clear that it’s a conservative, religious organization that has been covering up sexual abuse and its idea of good character, good leadership, etc., is something I disagree with. It makes it even easier for me to say that the Boy Scouts can go fuck itself. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/113 "2020-02-20T17:59:40Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I guess we should tell that to the folks, some of them in this thread and past threads about the Boy Scouts, who seem to be primarily interested in the organization for its giving kids the opportunity to do outdoor stuff. Here’s the [mission statement](https://www.scouting.org/commissioners/bsa-mission/) of the BSA: > [@BSA](#): > > The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law. If you go down the page, you find near the bottom that BSA Districts are tasked with “Promotion of the BSA camping and outdoor program.” The reason that the “outdoor stuff” is emphasized is because that’s the fun part. What kid would voluntarily join an organization that wasn’t any fun? As BSA [puts it](https://www.scouting.org/outdoor-programs/): > [@BSA](#): > > Why the Outdoors? Outdoor adventure is the promise made to young people when they join Scouting. Boys and girls yearn for outdoor programs that stir their imagination and interest. > [@Acsenray](#): > > Well, okay, then, then it’s clear that it’s a conservative, religious organization… BSA is not a conservative, religious organization. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/114 "2020-02-20T18:04:04Z")
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/115 "2020-02-20T19:27:20Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Here’s the [mission statement](https://www.scouting.org/commissioners/bsa-mission/) of the BSA: I didn’t say I didn’t believe you, so I don’t know what all that was for. > [@](#): > > BSA is not a conservative, religious organization. It is clearly a religious organization. Its oath requires swearing to a “duty to God.” Its “law” requires reverence. It explicitly excludes atheists from the organization. It has a “Religious Relationships Task Force,” whose chairman wrote in 2014: > **[About the 'belief in God' requirement in Scouting](https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/10/03/belief-in-god-scouting/)** > > The BSA asks its members to affirm a belief in God. That doesn't mean the Boy Scouts of America tells its members which religion to practice. > [@](#): > > …a belief in God is integral to Scouting and is a key element in character building. In 2018, its National Executive Board adopted a resolution titled “Reaffirming Duty to God” [BSA reaffirms Duty to God aspect of all programs through resolution adopted at 2018 National Annual Meeting - Aaron On Scouting](https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/05/31/bsa-reaffirms-duty-to-god-aspect-of-all-programs-through-resolution-adopted-at-2018-national-annual-meeting/) It is explicitly a religious organization. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/116 "2020-02-20T19:32:29Z")
The funny thing about all the God stuff in the BSA is that it doesn’t seem like it really matters if it’s there or not. It’s like a question at the door “Do you believe in God? Yes? Great, welcome in.” and then it doesn’t come up again. Every now and then there might be mention of God, but it’s not like there are Bible teachings and stuff. The BSA could totally strike all the religious stuff from the BSA and it seems like the only difference to the scouts would be a few less words in the oath. It doesn’t seem like it’s worth having it there for all the controversy it brings. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/117 "2020-02-20T19:45:34Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It explicitly excludes atheists from the organization. I haven’t been excluded yet. Should I be worried? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/118 "2020-02-20T20:14:55Z")
Regarding the “religious” aspects, such as the oath to “…do my duty to God…” I am reminded of the mathematician [Paul Erdős](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s): > [@](#): > > although an agnostic atheist, he spoke of “The Book”, a visualization of a book in which God had written down the best and most elegant proofs for mathematical theorems. Lecturing in 1985 he said, “You don’t have to believe in God, but you should believe in _The Book_.” I am tempted to say, in a similar spirit: You don’t have to be religious or even believe in God, you just have to do your duty to God. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/119 "2020-02-20T21:17:28Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Regarding the “religious” aspects, such as the oath to “…do my duty to God…” I am reminded of the mathematician [Paul Erdős](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s)… > > I am tempted to say, in a similar spirit: You don’t have to be religious or even believe in God, you just have to do your duty to God. In a similar vein, I have told Scouts (and my own son) that “God” can mean whatever they want it to mean. > [@Acsenray](#): > > I didn’t say I didn’t believe you, so I don’t know what all that was for. Just trying to be helpful. 😉 > [@Acsenray](#): > > …It is explicitly a religious organization. I concede that this is nominally the case, but it is also explicitly non-sectarian. To be honest, the religious stuff is still in there to placate the religious people. With many of them having now left, I wouldn’t be surprised if this changes as the number of people in the U.S. who are religious [continues to decline](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protestants-decline-religion-sharply-shifting-religious-landscape-poll/story?id=54995663). Nevertheless, as a non-religious person I still don’t particularly have a problem with the last point of the Scout Law (“A Scout is Reverent.”) As Boy’s Life [explains](https://boyslife.org/about-scouts/scouting-around/35325/a-scout-is-reverent-toward-god/), “A Scout is reverent. He is faithful in his religious duties and respects the convictions of others in matters of custom and religion…” The first part of the point (“faithful in his religious duties”) is my own business. If questioned, I would say it was between me and God, which is true enough. Again, I can define “God” however I want. The second part of this point is being politely respectful of the religious beliefs of others. I fully agree with this (so long as their beliefs don’t conflict with mine\*). \*For example, they are free to believe in what they want – they are not free to try to convert me, or make me follow their beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108/120 "2020-02-20T22:48:46Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > So what’s the greater good, here? Teaching kids that being out in the woods is more important than accepting other human beings? How about teaching the kids about teamwork, doing good for your community, and the various other “good values” espoused? Remember, if the organization ceases to exist, then it also ceases to be in a position to teach anything at all, including the value of acceptance of other human beings. At that point, the BSA isn’t a moral exemplar; it’s simply another failed organization that used to do something or other, but that is dead and gone and irrelevant. > [@Derleth](#): > > If you don’t hold to your morality when it’s difficult, you don’t have morality. You have public opinion polling. The BSA holds itself out as being better than that. Define “morality.” Sixty years ago, a person who espoused the idea that LGBTQ deserved equal treatment and the same rights was not seen as “moral” but as “crazy” or “ludicrous” or “stupid,” and this was not controversial. We can debate moral universalism if you’d like, but I’m note sure why you point to the Scouts specifically instead of society generally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy/848108.md?page=7)