# Boy, sure is rape culture around here lately **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 25, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876 "2018-09-25T10:03:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/101 "2018-09-25T23:31:09Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I am very glad that we are in ATMB, as I can now say what I want to say. (I did not want to be the one to start the thread, as I am not directly affected.) > > **Starving Artist** admitted to at least knowing about rapes going on in his youth but not trying to stop them. And he is condoning these attempts, saying it’s just normal behavior, and no big deal. > > This crosses the Caesario line. It crosses the Nazi line. He is being a jerk. He is promoting a crime. It should be punished. > > I don’t think it’s too much to ask that you can’t come in and say that it’s okay to attempt to rape people. I would like this a board to be a place I could recommend to people. > > And, no, I’m not going to argue with **Starving Artist** here about it. I would suggest that others avoid that, too, since such sidetracks often get these threads closed. > > As I said in the Pit thread, he’s not saying “it’s bad, but it didn’t happen.” He’s not saying “It’s bad, but she shouldn’t have been drunk” or something similar. He’s saying that attempting rape is normal and okay. > > You guys ask what would improve this board. Here’s a start. You got this one right. 100%. **Starving “to victimize women” Artist** needs to be banned. He brings nothing good to the board. And that’s the only way to take something away from him as a consequence of his behavior. He won’t stop his abhorrent arguments. He loves it. He gets off on it. So, let’s take that away from him. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/102 "2018-09-26T00:15:23Z")
I vote we ban **expectopatronum** because I don’t like this post, and it’s the only way to stop him/her. This is what we’re doing now, right? ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/103 "2018-09-26T00:25:19Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’ll say it. Starving Artist should feel like a bad person for his words. I was following Jay Smooth’s advice about racism – focus on the speech, not the person. So, “what you said sounded racist,” not “you’re a racist.” [https://youtu.be/b0Ti-gkJiXc](https://youtu.be/b0Ti-gkJiXc) I agree with Smooth’s argument that labeling people racist/misogynist/whatevs based on one act of speech is a bad approach on pragmatic grounds. Also, it’s uncharitable. We all fail at life in all its aspects; when our failures are at the level of sincere thought or speech, it seems like the right thing not to ascribe evil motives to someone who messed up once. (YMMV on whether Starving Artist deserves that kind of intellectual charity, obvs.) ---
**Author:** ![GoPostie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@GoPostie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoPostie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/104 "2018-09-26T00:44:38Z")
It is excruciating to see so many people unable to talk straight. Virtue signalling is a horrid, needy, embarrassing, cringing self indulgence. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/105 "2018-09-26T00:48:35Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I vote we ban **expectopatronum** because I don’t like this post, and it’s the only way to stop him/her. > > This is what we’re doing now, right? You might want to think things through before putting it to a vote. ---
**Author:** ![GoPostie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@GoPostie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoPostie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/106 "2018-09-26T00:48:37Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I vote we ban **expectopatronum** because I don’t like this post, and it’s the only way to stop him/her. > > This is what we’re doing now, right? It’s now called ‘no platforming’ at colleges and universities. Why should students, who are their by default to learn, have to listen to people they don’t agree with. Has anyone suggesting making the SD a ‘safe space’ yet? Believe me, it’s coming … ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/107 "2018-09-26T00:53:16Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I vote we ban **expectopatronum** because I don’t like this post, and it’s the only way to stop him/her. > > This is what we’re doing now, right? The rest of us can count past one. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/108 "2018-09-26T01:14:52Z")
> [@GoPostie](#): > > It’s now called ‘no platforming’ at colleges and universities. Why should students, who are their by default to learn, have to listen to people they don’t agree with. > > Has anyone suggesting making the SD a ‘safe space’ yet? Believe me, it’s coming … No one has ever mentioned safe spaces except for the pro-misogyny tards/trolls, like yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/109 "2018-09-26T01:18:34Z")
I’ll chip in a vote to bring it up to two. If all the right thinking people on the board chip in we might bring it up to eight or 10. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GoPostie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@GoPostie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoPostie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/110 "2018-09-26T01:29:59Z")
Hey, turns out I’m “pro-misogyny”. Someone just told me i=on the internet. Do i get a bumper sticker or something. When’s the next meetup? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/111 "2018-09-26T01:31:38Z")
> [@GoPostie](#): > > It’s now called ‘no platforming’ at colleges and universities. Why should students, who are their by default to learn, have to listen to people they don’t agree with. > > Has anyone suggesting making the SD a ‘safe space’ yet? Believe me, it’s coming … The bright side is, it only took you a few days to realize this forum isn’t the place for you. You can pull up anchor and move on to new adventures, with no regrets over the tiny fraction of your long, rich and storied life that you wasted here. Godspeed! ---
**Author:** ![GoPostie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@GoPostie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoPostie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/112 "2018-09-26T01:33:07Z")
I’m grateful to be advised so well by a turnip. ---
**Author:** ![GoPostie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@GoPostie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoPostie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/113 "2018-09-26T01:40:58Z")
Can I also be among the first to suggest turnips need and deserve their own safe space. You shouldn’t be oppressed by having to share your environment with sharp objects, cooking paraphernalia, and men dressed in white uniforms and aprons. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/114 "2018-09-26T02:43:19Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > No one has ever mentioned safe spaces except for the pro-misogyny tards/trolls, like yourself. Darn. Giraffe snark mining must have hit a dry patch. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/115 "2018-09-26T03:06:08Z")
:: reads last few posts :: …with that reference to the “boards we shall not name” I think we’ve hit the bingo!!! ---
**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/116 "2018-09-26T03:36:38Z")
> [@GoPostie](#): > > Can I also be among the first to suggest turnips need and deserve their own safe space. You shouldn’t be oppressed by having to share your environment with sharp objects, cooking paraphernalia, and men dressed in white uniforms and aprons. This is a good example of someone who is not even trying to add anything to the conversation. He’s just trying to bait people. How long does he get to do this? ---
**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/117 "2018-09-26T03:42:20Z")
He’s trolling in the #whyIdidn’treport thread. Can this please be stopped? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/118 "2018-09-26T05:09:57Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Keep in mind those threads are in the Pit. If you are looking for a nice and safe place, stay as far away from the Pit as you can. > > Believe me, I am very much in favor of making this place less misogynistic, but the Pit is the Pit. There are quite a few topics in the Pit that would get moderated in a heartbeat in any other forum. As long as those posts don’t actually cross the line into trolling, then they are allowed in the Pit. Why do we allow it in the PIT? Sure, we allow name calling in the Pit. You can call someone a asshole. But there’s no reason at all why racist, sexist and trolling posts need to be allowed there. The other idea is dump the Pit as a outdated idea. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/119 "2018-09-26T05:17:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Put it as baldly as possible - is it trolling to say “I don’t believe her”? Maybe. If you said: “You know, Memory Experts have said memories that old are unreliable” that would be one thing. But blaming the victim, or attacking her for possible reasons why she might be lying- that gets into being misogynistic and /or rape culture. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876/120 "2018-09-26T05:19:28Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > ISTM that a fifteen year old girl at a house party with no adults and where there is drinking is in the wrong place. Blaming the victim. Misogyny. Rape culture. It was NOT her fault. Rape is \*never \*the victim’s fault. It falls 100% on the … rapist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boy-sure-is-rape-culture-around-here-lately/821876.md?page=7)