# Boycott Star Trek 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126 "2013-03-27T19:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/221 "2013-04-17T21:17:45Z")
šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/222 "2013-04-17T22:02:27Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > :smack: "INā€™ starfleet, as inā€¦ ā€œin her hoohahā€. Gads, am I slow, or what?? one could say your running on thrusters only. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/223 "2013-04-17T22:08:17Z")
> [@simster](#): > > one could say your running on thrusters only. Lost in deep space, on impulse power only. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/224 "2013-04-17T22:10:15Z")
ā€œBest speed ahead, Mr. Sulu.ā€ ā€œAye, aye, Captain.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/225 "2013-04-17T22:14:49Z")
She cannae take any more, Captain! ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/226 "2013-04-17T22:21:56Z")
ā€œMe poor bairns!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/227 "2013-04-17T22:31:25Z")
Well, now the chroniton disruption wave has normalizedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/228 "2013-04-17T22:34:40Z")
nero had the ā€œspoooooooooockā€ scream in the last movie. iā€™ve been wondering who john harrison is stomping. (youā€™ll shoot your eye out.) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/229 "2013-04-17T22:42:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, now the chroniton disruption wave has normalizedā€¦ But we burned up the Zilch coils! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/230 "2013-04-18T14:52:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, frankly, thereā€™s no way to watch Khan in a new movie without comparing it to the old one, and thereā€™s just no way it can measure up. Assuming it really is Khan, I am boycotting the movie because that was a dumb, dumb decision. Itā€™s just pandering to get people to watch rather than an attempt at good story telling. It just reeks of someone in marketing saying ā€œPeople thought The Wrath of Khan was the best Star Trek movie, so letā€™s do that one again.ā€ While I would not mind a Khan movie I am glad they are not going that route. I think it would be interesting to see how the characters would act in different circumstance. But then I enjoy alternate histories and timeline stories. And yes, people would compare it to the previous film, but if it is a good story told in an interesting way, I could get lost in that world and not think about the previous version. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/231 "2013-04-20T17:59:59Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > You seem to have gotten what the press has been indicating about this movie completely wrong. Also, you have not read the rest of the thread which could have clued you in that you had gotten what the press has been saying completely wrong. > > The Khan rumors were debunked _quite some time ago_. If they were debunked, then they came back. I can show you fans from a month or two ago thinking it was confirmed that it was Khan, to the point of doing video reviews of TWOK and Space Seed in preparation. If real trekkies were fooled, who follow this stuff religiously, thereā€™s no way the average film watcher was not. And, no, I didnā€™t get what the studios were saying wrong. You donā€™t deliberately hide the name of the villain if itā€™s not someone we already know, and Khan is one of a very small number of human villains. The only ā€œdebunkingā€ I know of is one actor saying his character wasnā€™t called ā€œKhan,ā€ which was not backed up by the studios at all. They let people go on thinking it was Khan pretty much up until this trailer you are mentioning. (One I didnā€™t even know about because Iā€™d stopped following the news on a movie I wasnā€™t planning on seeing.) Finally, I have no idea how I was supposed to have figured anything at all about the movie from this thread. It starts with people ridiculing the OP, followed by people discussing the reboot, followed by people discussing the other movies. Not once does anyone touch upon the plot of the upcoming movie. Even now knowing itā€™s not Khan, I still have a bad taste in my mouth for how the publicity was handled. And the idea of Trek going ā€œInto Darknessā€ still is not that appealing. (Do stuff in your new universe before subverting that universe. Not even the Reboot universe was actually dark.) So I downgrade my boycott to a ā€œMeh, maybe Iā€™ll catch it on Netflix or bargain-rack DVD.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/232 "2013-04-20T18:04:59Z")
And [hereā€™s an article](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1705737/star-trek-into-darkness-plot-secrets-movie-awards.jhtml) I just found on Google saying that fans think it STILL could be Khan under a different name. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/233 "2013-05-01T23:17:58Z")
latest trailer! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wHq0hQA3P7U/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Trek Into Darkness Movie CLIP - I Allow It (2013) - Chris Pine Movie HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHq0hQA3P7U) iā€™m hoping for the 15th. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/234 "2013-05-02T04:53:47Z")
Iā€™ve always had a fondness for TOS ever since watching early reruns back in the '70s, but I donā€™t remember many of the details, nor did I ever watch any of the other series. I thought the 2009 reboot was fun and ingenious: they wanted to do something that was kind of **like** TOS but not have it **be** TOS, so they finessed it with an alternate timeline. But having watched the linked trailer, Iā€™m not too sure about this reboot sequel. Star Trek on **Earth**? What fun is that? Even in TOS I never found the episodes set on Earth particularly gripping. (Yes, I get that this is future-Earth weā€™re going to be seeing in this sequel, but Iā€™m still not really excited about it. In the Star Trek universe, IMO, Earth is supposed to be where youā€™re from, not where you are.) Iā€™ll probably go see it, though. But not really because of Benedict Cumberbatch. I think Cumberbatch is an excellent actor and very good value, but I donā€™t need to see him in _everything_, and thatā€™s kind of where he seems to be these days. (Fans who **do** want to see Cumberbatch in everything, however, should make sure they catch the 2003 ITV series _Fortysomething_, where he plays Hugh Laurieā€™s teenage son.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/235 "2013-05-02T11:46:23Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > But having watched the linked trailer, Iā€™m not too sure about this reboot sequel. Star Trek on **Earth**? What fun is that? Even in TOS I never found the episodes set on Earth particularly gripping. I thought the only TOS episodes set on Earth were the ones where they went back in time to the 20th century. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/236 "2013-05-03T04:28:03Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I thought the only TOS episodes set on Earth were the ones where they went back in time to the 20th century. Yeah, those are the ones I mean. But I wouldnā€™t really have been interested in TOS-on-Earth even if theyā€™d been showing 24th-century Earth. Been here done this, dudes! Letā€™s go someplace new! Maybe with silicon-based life forms! šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/237 "2013-05-12T06:25:12Z")
Just got back from seeing it - and it is quite good. John Harrison is a pseudonym ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/238 "2013-05-13T14:17:15Z")
Someone leaked/spoiled the film on Star Trek dot bbs. If it is an acurate spoilage, plot holes ahoy! šŸ˜ƒ I still wanna see it. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/239 "2013-05-14T11:17:05Z")
Just saw it. I was very much entertained, but I have concerns. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/240 "2013-05-14T12:08:53Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Someone leaked/spoiled the film on Star Trek dot bbs. > > If it is an acurate spoilage, plot holes ahoy! šŸ˜ƒ > > I still wanna see it. Dunno if its the same spoiler Iā€™ve seen, but it makes me not want to see it (although to be honest, I wasnā€™t that keen to start with) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=11)