# Boycott Star Trek 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126 "2013-03-27T19:13:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/21 "2013-03-27T20:04:34Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> … which is why I love it.
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> Star Trek, to me, is about Kirk, Spock and McCoy; it’s about action, adventure and punching aliens in the face.

And shagging scantily clad green women. Don’t forget the scantily clad green women.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/22 "2013-03-27T20:06:15Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> … which is why I love it.
> 
> Star Trek, to me, is about Kirk, Spock and McCoy; it’s about action, adventure and punching aliens in the face. The 2009 movie nailed those elements like nothing since 1969.

Couldn’t have said it any better. James T. Kirk was my boyhood hero.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/23 "2013-03-27T20:06:43Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Time to join the 21st century - there is no ‘Star Trek I used to know’.
> 
> (except in repeats).

Until I’m asked to personally produce the next series, I’ll stick to the repeats, thanks.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/24 "2013-03-27T20:09:36Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I’ve been a Trek fan for over 40 years now, and that last piece of dreck was infinitely worse than any third-season episode of TOS.

_The Way to Eden_.

_Spock’s Brain_.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/25 "2013-03-27T20:12:53Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> _The Way to Eden_.
> 
> _Spock’s Brain_.

_Plato’s Stepchildren._

_Mark of Gideon._

_Is There in Truth No Beauty?_

_The Lights of Zetar._

_The Empath._

_And the Children Shall Lead._

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/26 "2013-03-27T20:13:33Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> no.

Agreed.

> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I will see iot, but I am starting to get annoyed at the “Let’s serious-fy and darki-fy” everything. I mean the new Superman, the new Star Trek, the new James Bond are all pushing the “too serious to be fun anymore” envelope (well Superman and Star Trek seem to be, I haven’t actually seen them). In many ways it is the recent Batman movies to blame, but at least Batman to some extent was already dark.

Did you see the extended trailer that played before The Hobbit? I don’t think it is close to being too serious.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/27 "2013-03-27T20:17:13Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I thought the first was quite good. I’m looking forward to the new one.

I liked it better when it was called _Galaxy Quest_.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/28 "2013-03-27T20:19:32Z")

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I liked the Star Trek reboot, and I grew up with TOS, watched on the original first air dates!! Including the Kirk-Uhura kiss. So there.

And I met Nimoy in a small airport restaurant once, and he was very nice.

[sub]now where was I going with this?[/sub]

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/29 "2013-03-27T20:23:01Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> _Plato’s Stepchildren._
> 
> _Mark of Gideon._
> 
> _Is There in Truth No Beauty?_
> 
> _The Lights of Zetar._
> 
> _The Empath._
> 
> _And the Children Shall Lead._

Are these supposed to be good episodes or bad? Anyway, neither way does it show that 2009’s movie was\* infinitely worse\* than \*anything \*from the 3rd season.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/30 "2013-03-27T20:26:23Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Until I’m asked to personally produce the next series, I’ll stick to the repeats, thanks.

Carry on; I’m pretty sure I’d hate what you produced at least as much as you hate the ‘new’ stuff.

Honestly? I had a ton of fun with the last film, and while I’m concerned with what seems to be a darker tone in the next one (The previous film was not what I’d have called dark, really.) that won’t stop me from seeing it.

I probably liked it because I have no preconceptions or attachments to old Trek. Actually, that’s a lie, I found most of what I saw of it kinda painful and only entertaining when viewed as camp.

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/31 "2013-03-27T20:27:44Z")

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I’ve never seen the first one even though I’m a big Star Trek Fan. I’m just not in the market for new Kirks and Spocks.  
But seriously, have you never seen a Michael Bay film?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/32 "2013-03-27T20:29:29Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> End the madness! Really! Star Trek was thew worst big budget movie ever produced. Let’s show Paramount they can’t get away with foisting this unmitigated crap on us!

You’ve convinced me.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/33 "2013-03-27T20:30:38Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I will see iot, but I am starting to get annoyed at the “Let’s serious-fy and darki-fy” everything. I mean the new Superman, the new Star Trek, the new James Bond are all pushing the “too serious to be fun anymore” envelope (well Superman and Star Trek seem to be, I haven’t actually seen them). In many ways it is the recent Batman movies to blame, but at least Batman to some extent was already dark.

The trailers are always serious, because that’s what fills theaters. The first movie had a serious trailers, but it also had green aliens in underwear, Kirk with a numb tongue, Chekov unable to pronounce V’s, and Scotty getting sucked through a tube of coolant. Among other things. So I don’t expect this movie to be super serious the whole way through.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/34 "2013-03-27T20:31:41Z")

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I opened this thread thinking it was a joke about the original Star Trek and how we should boycott The Wrath of Khan. That being the joke, since Khan is pretty much agreed upon as being the best Star Trek ever.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/35 "2013-03-27T20:38:25Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The first movie had a serious trailers, but it also had green aliens in underwear, Kirk with a numb tongue, Chekov unable to pronounce V’s, and Scotty getting sucked through a tube of coolant. Among other things. So I don’t expect this movie to be super serious the whole way through.

Are you out of your Vulcan mind?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/36 "2013-03-27T20:42:34Z")

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The first one had its flaws, but it was fun. Trek hadn’t been \*fun \*in a while.

My wife and I will be there.

> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I liked the Star Trek reboot, and I grew up with TOS, watched on the original first air dates!! Including the Kirk-Uhura kiss. So there.
> 
> And I met Nimoy in a small airport restaurant once, and he was very nice.
> 
> [sub]now where was I going with this?[/sub]

If you’d like, I could stay off your lawn.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/37 "2013-03-27T20:45:56Z")

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I enjoyed the first one and am looking forward to the next one. Fun movie.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/38 "2013-03-27T20:50:56Z")

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I saw the reboot, and as another one of the fans from the first run of the original show, I found it to be pretty darn entertaining. I’m expecting to be entertained by the next one as well.

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/39 "2013-03-27T20:51:56Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> Benedict Cumberbatch is in it. Try and keep me from seeing it.

+1. I can hardly take my eyes off him in the [trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz4A5BCMAA).\* It does look pretty dark, though with a few light moments “I am not sure that qualifies.”  
\*Warning - the linked trailer pretty much gives away the entire plot.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/40 "2013-03-27T20:56:41Z")

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Benedict. Cumberbatch.

No, I won’t be boycotting.

StG

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