# Boycott Star Trek 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126 "2013-03-27T19:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/41 "2013-03-27T21:00:40Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > … but at least Batman to some extent was already dark. Ha! Ahh, kids. _Batman_ is the guy who KERPOWS! Cesar Romero who has a whitewashed moustache, and Frank Gorshin who is wearing that disturbing bodystocking, while Julie Newmar purrs. It was to _no_ extent dark. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/42 "2013-03-27T21:05:37Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > End the madness! Really! Star Trek was thew worst big budget movie ever produced. Let’s show Paramount they can’t get away with foisting this unmitigated crap on us! Just because you and I thing it’s dumb is no reason other people will. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/43 "2013-03-27T21:09:18Z")
Ha! Aaah, kids… Batman is the one who stands by and watches villains die, soliloquizing about how it’s proper justice. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/44 "2013-03-27T21:11:35Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > End the madness! Really! Star Trek was thew worst big budget movie ever produced. Let’s show Paramount they can’t get away with foisting this unmitigated crap on us! Maybe I’ll go twice to cancel you out. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/45 "2013-03-27T21:17:43Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > End the madness! Really! Star Trek was thew worst big budget movie ever produced. Let’s show Paramount they can’t get away with foisting this unmitigated crap on us! ummm…did you block out Star Trek V? That alone disproves your hypothesis. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/46 "2013-03-27T21:24:22Z")
I don’t mind a little bit of dumb in my big, cheesy, blockbuster movies, as long as I’m not so bored that I start picking apart the plot holes during the film. ST 2009 was a lot of fun, and I speak as a TOS fan of 40-ish years (so I can play this game too!). I do agree, however, that _Galaxy Quest_ is the best ST movie ever made. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/47 "2013-03-27T21:26:54Z")
Ha! Aaah, kids… Batman is the one who fights the evil Jap Dr. Daka who has a radium gun that is more destructive than any weapon the world has ever seen. Also an alligator pit. And no, it is not dark. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/48 "2013-03-27T21:36:00Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Rubbish. I’ve been a Trek fan for over 40 years now, and that last piece of dreck was infinitely worse than any third-season episode of TOS. I don’t know what this latest reboot is, but it sure ain’t the Star Trek I used to know, not by a long shot! Well then, _I’ve_ been a Trek fan for over _43_ years, and I thought it was quite good. So there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/49 "2013-03-27T21:42:34Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Benedict Cumberbatch is in it. Try and keep me from seeing it. > [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > +1. I can hardly take my eyes off him in the [trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz4A5BCMAA).\* It does look pretty dark, though with a few light moments “I am not sure that qualifies.” > \*Warning - the linked trailer pretty much gives away the entire plot. > [@StGermain](#): > > Benedict. Cumberbatch. > > No, I won’t be boycotting. > > StG I’m currently listening to Mr. Cumberbatch read _The Memoirs of Casanova._ Wow. Yeah. That man… _fans self_ ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/50 "2013-03-27T21:43:19Z")
I think this Onion video sums up my opinion of the types of people complaining about the last movie. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/02LgdXVkXgM/hqdefault.jpg "Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM) ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/51 "2013-03-27T21:45:07Z")
I’d like to live in the OP’s world, where _Star Trek_ is the worst big budget movie ever produced. Every movie in that world must be awesome! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/52 "2013-03-27T21:54:50Z")
Anything that leaves no possibility for Sarek to explain to his son, \*in the presence of his wife, \*that he married her because at the time “it seemed the logical thing to do” is NOT Star Trek. So, unless they use this year’s thingy to undo that “reboot” crap, I’m on board with this boycott. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/53 "2013-03-27T21:57:18Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Benedict. Cumberbatch. > > No, I won’t be boycotting. > > StG Yeah, if you miss him in Star Trek your only chance to see him will be in Sherlock, Twelve Years a Slave, August: Osage County, The Hobbit, The Hobbit, The Hobbit (now available on Blu-Ray), and the Fifth Estate. Other then that, and the promotional tours for those films, he’ll be out of the public eye. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/54 "2013-03-27T22:00:47Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > End the madness! Really! Star Trek was thew worst big budget movie ever produced. Let’s show Paramount they can’t get away with foisting this unmitigated crap on us! I count the reboot among the best Star Trek movies, and I like Trek. I’ve seen it a dozen times or more. Add to that Sherlock Holmes signing on to be the baddie in 2, you best believe I’mma gonna see it! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/55 "2013-03-27T22:36:32Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > Well then, _I’ve_ been a Trek fan for over _43_ years, and I thought it was quite good. > > So there. 😛 I am surprised. I thought fans of TOS would not like it. Well, enjoy! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/56 "2013-03-27T23:03:17Z")
No. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/57 "2013-03-27T23:05:09Z")
> [@Shawn1767](#): > > I think this Onion video sums up my opinion of the types of people complaining about the last movie. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM) That was funny. And I say that as one who was a fan of the original series when I was growing up, though I never got into the conventions, costumes etc. When I first heard about the 2009 movie, I was skeptical - until I heard about the ‘reboot’ premise, that this Kirk and Spock had separated from the TOS timeline long before TOS, and therefore it was OK that they were different. Having realized that, I enjoyed the film, and expect to enjoy the next one. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/58 "2013-03-27T23:05:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I am surprised. I thought fans of TOS would not like it. > Well, enjoy! 🙂 Why wouldn’t they? It captured the spirit of the original characters quite well. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/59 "2013-03-27T23:08:48Z")
If anything, the people who don’t like it are probably fans of the touchy-feely, hotel-in-space TNG. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/60 "2013-03-27T23:12:37Z")
Hey, despite my comment above, I liked the re-boot and I am sure I will like the new one. I just have reservations from the trailer that the movie is going to pushing the “dark” motif. I don’t mind, but the trend is happening in all movies (except _The Avengers_ which was awesome and fairly light, relatively speaking) And yes, the 1960’s Batman TV sow was far campier than anything maybe ever and I realize Batman isn’t exactly dark and introspective throughout his history, but it is a little bit darker than Superman or the original Star Trek. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=4)