# Boycott Star Trek 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126 "2013-03-27T19:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/61 "2013-03-27T23:25:18Z")
The only thing I didn’t like about the first was Leonard Nimoy. He just didn’t fit with the rest of the cast. I thought the rest of the movie was quite entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/62 "2013-03-27T23:25:36Z")
I was a fan of STTOS watching it when it originally aired! And the new Trek is just fine. The Onion captured the spirit of the haters perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/63 "2013-03-27T23:45:18Z")
I loved TOS and also quite enjoyed the reboot. The reboot didn’t stand up to close inspection (for reasons set forth here, after scrolling down: [Link](http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/090818&sportCat=nfl) ) which is why I didn’t subject it to close inspection. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/64 "2013-03-27T23:48:05Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > I loved TOS and also quite enjoyed the reboot. The reboot didn’t stand up to close inspection (for reasons set forth here, after scrolling down: [Link](http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/090818&sportCat=nfl) ) which is why I didn’t subject it to close inspection. It doesn’t even withstand _casual_ inspection, in passing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/65 "2013-03-27T23:51:57Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > I do agree, however, that _Galaxy Quest_ is the best ST movie ever made. To quote George Takei, it’s a chillingly realistic documentary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/66 "2013-03-27T23:55:56Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Why wouldn’t they? It captured the spirit of the original characters quite well. I think it is silly to think that a guy could come right out of the academy and command a ship. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/67 "2013-03-27T23:59:35Z")
You know what? The man saved the Earth. Giving him a command was the least they could do, if only from a PR standpoint. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/68 "2013-03-28T00:21:23Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I am surprised. I thought fans of TOS would not like it. > Well, enjoy! 🙂 I’ve been a fan of Star Trek as long as I can remember - while I was born the year it was introduced, it was thruout my child hood - to say I am a ‘huge’ fan would be an understatement. That being said - I’m not one of ‘those’ fans that abhor change or think everything (and every choice) made by Roddenberry was pure gold - and I did get to meet him when he was doing the speaking tours in the 80s. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/69 "2013-03-28T00:25:42Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > Well then, _I’ve_ been a Trek fan for over _43_ years, and I thought it was quite good. > > So there. 😛 > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I am surprised. I thought fans of TOS would not like it. > Well, enjoy! 🙂 I’ve been a Star Trek fan for over 46 years. Top that! And I did greatly enjoy the last movie. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/70 "2013-03-28T00:34:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I think it is silly to think that a guy could come right out of the academy and command a ship. Wasn’t Kirk pretty close to getting a command already? He’d been told he might get one in 6 years and he’d been in Starfleet for 4 and was taking the Kobayashi Maru (again) so the impression I got is that he was in the final stages leading up to it already, ahead of schedule. With a large chunk of the fleet wiped out and his success, a field promotion doesn’t seem that improbable. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/71 "2013-03-28T00:37:58Z")
I will see the movie. It looks fun. May have to actually go to a cinema for it, because I fear the Internet will be awash with spoilers if I wait for the DVD. Spoilers ruined parts of _Dark Knight Rises_ for me, as they are almost impossible to avoid. Very annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/72 "2013-03-28T01:24:24Z")
> [@moriah](#): > > The Onion captured the spirit of the haters perfectly. Oh please give me a link! ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/73 "2013-03-28T01:32:09Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Star Trek, to me, is about Kirk, Spock and McCoy; it’s about action, adventure and punching aliens in the face. The 2009 movie nailed those elements like nothing since 1969. The 2009 movie had plot holes you could drive a starship through. It was also tremendous fun, a quality that had been pretty much drained from the franchise by that point. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/74 "2013-03-28T01:53:44Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Wasn’t Kirk pretty close to getting a command already? He’d been told he might get one in 6 years and he’d been in Starfleet for 4 and was taking the Kobayashi Maru (again) so the impression I got is that he was in the final stages leading up to it already, ahead of schedule. With a large chunk of the fleet wiped out and his success, a field promotion doesn’t seem that improbable. That’s silly. Like putting a guy who writes a neat computer game in charge of Microsoft. They could have restarted it with a movie of his brilliant career as an Ensign and Lieutenant on other ships, and perhaps his first mission in command of Enterprise. Audie Murphy wasn’t made Supreme Commander in Europe, after all. Hornblower (who Kirk was modeled after) took some time to become a Captain, let alone an Admiral 🙂 I wonder how many military people agree and disagree. Consider Napoleon’s career as a brilliant artillery guy before he came to run the joint (and lose the country) in the French army. And Scotty is comic relief. He was a tough guy in TOS. When the actor became old and fat, they used him as CF. He was cool in, for example, _Friday’s Child_. But hey, it’s a movie. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/75 "2013-03-28T02:35:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Anything that leaves no possibility for Sarek to explain to his son, \*in the presence of his wife, \*that he married her because at the time “it seemed the logical thing to do” is NOT Star Trek. I take it you only watched the first five minutes of the movie, then, and didn’t see the part later on where Sarek puts that line in context. [Or the TOS episode](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Journey_to_Babel_(episode)) where Sarek said the exact same thing, in the presence of his wife, in the exact same context. Bro, do you even Trek? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/76 "2013-03-28T02:44:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Bro, do you even Trek? 🙂 I think these guys are kids. ---
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/77 "2013-03-28T02:59:36Z")
> [@Shawn1767](#): > > I think this Onion video sums up my opinion of the types of people complaining about the last movie. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM) My thoughts from the moment I started reading this thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/78 "2013-03-28T03:30:21Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I think it is silly to think that a guy could come right out of the academy and command a ship. He hadn’t even come out properly, as it were, having not even graduated. The Kirk of the 2009 film gets handed things because he HAS A DESTINY, not because he worked for them, and the entire movie is contrived to that end. ---
**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/79 "2013-03-28T03:51:00Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I thought the first was quite good. I’m looking forward to the new one. You’re not alone. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/80 "2013-03-28T04:08:57Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You know what? The man saved the Earth. Giving him a command was the least they could do, if only from a PR standpoint. There are parts that can cause an eyebrow to raise :dubious: , such as the academy kid getting command of the flagship. As you said though, he saved the Earth & rescued Pike while defeating the guy who had taken out Vulcan, a sizable chunk of Starfleet, a whole bunch of Klingon Bird of Preys, and the Kelvin. Plus, Captain. . .err, **Admiral** Pike loved him & had his back. If all that doesn’t get you something, then _DAAAAAMMMMNNNN_! Saving the Earth isn’t supposed to happen every day, even though it seems to in the Trek universe. It SHOULD be a big deal. Kirk & crew are big damn heroes, and no power in the 'verse can stop them. Whoops, mixing my sci-fi, sorry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=5)