# Boycott Star Trek 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126 "2013-03-27T19:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/161 "2013-03-29T16:11:07Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Heck, that means he missed Thor deriding the name Tiberius! He missed some great scenes. I quite enjoyed Thor in this movie, and when I first saw it, I was disappointed he was getting killed off. Going from his performance, I thought he would’ve made a great Kirk (and he’s actually a few years younger than cadet Chris Pine). He missed big-eyed doctor-lady, some great FX, young Kirk destroying Matt-the-mind-reader-from-Heroes’ classic car, Kirk macking on Uhura and a fun barfight, and the introduction of Karl Urban’s fantastic McCoy. Fun movie! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/162 "2013-03-29T16:13:19Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > [Let me show you something that will make you feel young as when the world was new…](http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/alice-eve-star-trek-into-darkness-carol-marcus-underwear-600x461.jpg) It’s good to see that lingerie technology doesn’t change in the next 200 years. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/163 "2013-03-29T17:15:31Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > It’s good to see that lingerie technology doesn’t change in the next 200 years. Mature technologies can be very conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/164 "2013-03-29T17:19:19Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Benedict Cumberbatch is in it. Try and keep me from seeing it. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/165 "2013-03-29T17:48:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > A forbidden website? Yeah, that takes me back… Instead of clicking on the link, right-click and copy it, then paste it in a new tab. That worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/166 "2013-03-29T19:21:54Z")
[It turns out there’s a hidden link in the Alice Eve “Federation’s Secret” image.](http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/21/new-star-trek-poster-is-your-reward-for-not-ogling-alice-eve-in-her-underwear/) ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/167 "2013-03-29T20:09:33Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Benedict Cumberbatch is in it. Try and keep me from seeing it. The problem is that Sherlock Holmes is only allowed in Star Trek movies that involve Data and a holodeck. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/168 "2013-03-29T21:05:35Z")
Cumberbatch is _not_ one of those actors who always plays the same character. He can change amazingly from project to project. (And I’m not just talking about his hair color.) ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/169 "2013-03-29T21:40:52Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > MOM! I’M BACK! I got the Hydrox, margarine, soy milk, Mr Pibb. . .they were out of matter, so I got proto-matter, hope that’s OK. . . Ha! Probably trying to save enough to buy a magazine. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I want one where Adam West played Captain Kirk while William Shatner played Bruce Wayne. Mine had William Shatner playing James West and Robert Conrad playing Kirk. This made virtually no difference. Martin Landau played Spock when he traded places with Leonard Nimoy. That also made virtually no difference. However, Vincent Price, hearing about the part and thinking it a good way to pick up some easy money, decided he wanted to play McCoy. That resulted in the doctor’s part getting ridiculously padded and, as they said back then, it was one farout scene. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/170 "2013-03-29T21:59:07Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I want one where Adam West played Captain Kirk while William Shatner played Bruce Wayne. They made a pilot together for [Alexander the Great](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4uTDlH0x4) back in 1964. I would so have loved for this to be picked up. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/171 "2013-03-29T22:10:47Z")
There **were** nods to the canon as I said in my last post. The apple, Captain/Admiral Archer. I think it’s meant to be the same guy, because he has a prized beagle. Of course not the same one, but a beagle nonetheless. And although Pike isn’t nearly as damaged, the wheelchair is clearly a nod. I have to agree on Pon Farr though. He can’t be having an affair if he married someone from Vulcan at age 7 unless he was bucking the tradition even from that age. We can’t do the Captain April stuff because I think that was just in a book and Roddenbury never considered them canon. (Although I like the nod to that Captain’s doctor always wearing a blue sweater by having Beverly wear one often in TNG. And Geordi being named after George LaForge, a fan who had a handicap; he was in a wheelchair.) At any rate, Shatner approves of Pine in the role, as can be seen [here](http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/alice-eve-star-trek-into-darkness-carol-marcus-underwear-600x461.jpg). “You keep getting **me** killed.” ~Shatner, playing the new video game which has the rebooted cast in it. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/172 "2013-03-29T22:19:44Z")
Wrong link: Here is the right one: > **[Star Trek Video Game Spot](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/video/star-trek-video-game-spot-213028647.html)** > > Star Trek ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/173 "2013-03-29T22:32:41Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > We can’t do the Captain April stuff because I think that was just in a book and Roddenbury never considered them canon. One of the animated episodes, actually. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/174 "2013-03-29T22:45:49Z")
> [@simster](#): > > no. /topic ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/175 "2013-03-29T22:51:06Z")
Star Trek 2009 was a good movie. The next one looks amazing. I’d rather boycott the OP than this movie. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/176 "2013-03-29T22:58:13Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > They made a pilot together for [Alexander the Great](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4uTDlH0x4) back in 1964. I would so have loved for this to be picked up. That would work: “To whom to you leave the Empire?” “To…the…strongest!” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/177 "2013-03-30T01:39:43Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > However, Vincent Price, hearing about the part and thinking it a good way to pick up some easy money, decided he wanted to play McCoy. Tragic, really, the way he was beaten out for the part by Peter Falk. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/178 "2013-03-30T02:25:32Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Tragic, really, the way he was beaten out for the part by Peter Falk. Peter Falk was the perfect Scotty. Great interplay between him and Robert Conrad. As Chief Engineer he always had “Just one more thing.” but Conrad was like “Scotty, I need those engines online now or there won’t be one more thing.” “Aye, Captain.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/179 "2013-03-30T02:38:50Z")
Obviously, the characters were shaped by the actors who played them. And it was a good thing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Frumpy\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Frumpy\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frumpy_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126/180 "2013-03-30T04:22:12Z")
> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#): > > But you still need starships to chart systems to beam people to. Are you just going to beam someone to a strange planet sight unseen? > > A lot of things from TOS and TNG are still out there. V’ger, Nomad, the Doomsday Machine, the Borg, the Botany Bay, Trelane, the Guardian of Forever, the probe from _Voyage Home_, Zefram Cochrane living on a rock somewhere, Data’s head buried under San Francisco, on and on. Though there’s no guarantee that the Enterprise will be the one to stumble on any of it. Funny you mention V’ger and the Borg… Just this evening some friends and i were speakign about the ST-verse and one of them suggested that a good idea for a ST movie/show/spinoff would be the introduction to the borg.. How they began with an ernest desire to help, and ultimatly became the assimilating beasts in cubes… And that to make their start, it begins with the bald chick and the guy from 7th heaven merging at the end of ST:TMP… they get trans-warped/wormholed through space and time… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boycott-star-trek-2/654126.md?page=10)