# BP lied

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359 "2016-06-03T04:40:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/1 "2016-06-03T04:40:02Z")

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[http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-02/bp-to-pay-175-million-to-settle-claims-it-hid-spill-costs](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-02/bp-to-pay-175-million-to-settle-claims-it-hid-spill-costs)

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> BP Plc said it agreed to pay $175 million to settle claims by U.S. investors that its managers lied about the size of the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill to prop up its stock price

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> Those statements also were central to BP’s agreement in 2012 to pay $525 million to resolve claims by the Securities and Exchange Commission that the London-based company underestimated the size of the spill to bolster stock prices. BP also pleaded guilty to a felony count of obstruction of Congress related to spill estimates.

Why, those despicable jerks! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/2 "2016-06-03T14:09:27Z")

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I work in the environmental industry. Rule #1 is that industry is lying. They tell half-truths, submit studies with questionable methodologies, obstruct progress, and occasionally outright lie. Because $. That’s always the motivation. I see it day after day after day. The quarterly earnings report trumps everything else.

BP lied? Just another day at the office.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/3 "2016-06-03T14:38:29Z")

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> [@Kelevra](#):
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> I work in the environmental industry. Rule #1 is that industry is lying.

What is rule #2? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/4 "2016-06-03T14:39:58Z")

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Don’t talk about Rule #1.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/5 "2016-06-03T14:41:25Z")

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Geez, get over it. They’ve already said they’re sorry.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/D01NHPnLrVs/hqdefault.jpg "Nick Clegg "We're Sorry" - South Park") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D01NHPnLrVs)

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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/6 "2016-06-03T14:55:29Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Don’t talk about Rule #1.

Beat me to it!🙂

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/7 "2016-06-03T17:29:48Z")

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I though BP was just making sure that the local wildlife was well lubricated.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/8 "2016-06-03T18:53:45Z")

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Meh, I don’t think complacency is a very good response to corporate malfeasance, the threat is just too big. And BP is the poster boy for corporate malfeasance.

I should have put something in the OP about now matter how great the corporate crime, nobody. ever. goes. to. jail. Without ranting myself blue, that really, really bugs me a lot.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/9 "2016-06-03T18:56:04Z")

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I thought this was a thread about butt-plugs.

Or maybe\* it is!\*

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/10 "2016-06-04T05:49:37Z")

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Well it isn’t British Petroleum, we know that much.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/11 "2016-06-04T06:18:59Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Meh, I don’t think complacency is a very good response to corporate malfeasance, the threat is just too big. And BP is the poster boy for corporate malfeasance.
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> I should have put something in the OP about now matter how great the corporate crime, nobody. ever. goes. to. jail. Without ranting myself blue, that really, really bugs me a lot.

My theory is that it’s because of the very nature of corporations. They’re able to insulate all its members by pointing a circle of fingers or not leaving a decision paper trail so that no one is able to prove any individual was responsible and malfeasant.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/12 "2016-06-04T14:24:54Z")

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Well … BP executives do have the responsibility to prop up stock prices … blame here rests on those shareholders gullible enough to believe this oil spill was inconsequential. They deserve to lose their money. I’ve heard “industry lies” all my life, and I’m still amazed to hear peoples think industry magically changed last night. When the press reported 5,000 gallons a day, my first thought was “Geez, 5,000 barrels a second is really bad, I better sell off my BP stock.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/13 "2016-06-04T16:45:49Z")

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I have long since liquidated my fossil fuel portfolio. Gave my son the car and bought beer instead of gas.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/14 "2016-06-05T21:58:14Z")

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> [@Kelevra](#):
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> I work in the environmental industry. Rule #1 is that industry is lying.

Is there nowhere else you can work?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/15 "2016-06-05T22:51:20Z")

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Well, I for one am outraged, and vow never to shop again at any BP convenience store, even though I rarely do, because prices are better at Sheetz or GetGo.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/16 "2016-06-06T02:04:39Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I thought this was a thread about butt-plugs.

But, butt-plugs (the item) can’t lie.

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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/17 "2016-06-06T13:36:58Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Is there nowhere else you can work?

Industry is necessary. I turn on electric lights, drive a car, and use a computer every day. All supplied by industries. But the point of these businesses is to make money. Anything that takes away from that is to be avoided. That’s capitalism.

But that doesn’t mean I excuse their methods. I enjoy my gadgets, but I don’t want [Love Canal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal) to be the norm. I work in this field because I want balance.

And I’ll keep working to make sure that my little section of the world is left better after I’m gone than when I entered it.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bp-lied/756359/18 "2016-06-06T20:24:02Z")

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So you don’t want love canal, that’s fine, that just means more love canal for the rest of us.
