# Brain shakers from watching the Gilligan's Island marathon

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [July 10, 2023, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847 "2023-07-10T07:57:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/61 "2023-07-10T23:40:04Z")

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I remember that. Seven years after the series ended:

[The Japanese soldier who kept on fighting after WW2 had finished | Sky HISTORY TV Channel](https://www.history.co.uk/shows/lost-gold-of-wwii/articles/the-japanese-soldier-who-kept-on-fighting-after-ww2-had-finished#:~:text=For%20Lieutenant%20Hiroo%20Onoda%2C%20the,the%2018th%20of%20December%201974).

Kind of like these guys:

> [https://youtu.be/rGrjP8ltFgw?t=1197](https://youtu.be/rGrjP8ltFgw?t=1197)

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Sure, Scotti’s take on a Japanese solider was offensive in many ways. But was he _that_ bad? -

I just looked at his pictures. He could play the part if you squint your eyes _just_ right.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/63 "2023-07-11T00:53:30Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> I could have finished a Ph.D program with the time I spent thinking about Mary Ann and Barbara Eden as a teen. This is nothing…

It’s rather interesting that you used the character’s name for one, and the actress’s name for the other.

Maybe Tina Louise was on to something about not wanting to be typecast. We probably all think we’re immune to that, and that we can accept a familiar actor in a new role, but when someone says “Mary Ann” instead of “Dawn Wells”, maybe those associations really do run deeper than we realize.

Did Tina have the best post-_Gilligan_ career? We’ve already mentioned a few roles she had. The rest didn’t do much apart from revivals of their _GI_ characters.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aTedKMJNlgQ/hqdefault.jpg "Gilligan Therapy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTedKMJNlgQ)

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/64 "2023-07-11T00:59:57Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I hate those stupid Woke disclaimers and mute them whenever they come on.

I agree they’re ridiculous. I would like to see a cite that anyone has been triggered by an episode of Gilligan’s Island or The Brady Bunch.

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I agree they’re ridiculous. I would like to see a cite that anyone has been triggered by an episode of Gilligan’s Island or The Brady Bunch.

Has anyone been triggered by _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_ or Speedy Gonzales? I haven’t seen either of those preceded by a disclaimer, but I’ve heard plenty of people speak critically of how their characters are portrayed. Times, and standards, change.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/66 "2023-07-11T01:13:47Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’ve heard plenty of people speak critically of how their characters are portrayed.

Their problem, not mine.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/67 "2023-07-11T01:23:10Z")

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Many, many TV shows, movies, music, books and Art have bad things in them.

You cannot avoid everything unless you live in a cave.  
(Oh, lord I hope the cave peoples don’t hear that, they’re such neanderthals when angered)

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Their problem, not mine.

Is there anything you would put a disclaimer on; _Amos & Andy_, _Song of the South_?

I recently saw _The Detective_, a 1968 movie in which a man commits a murder so that he won’t be exposed as homosexual. The portrayals of gay men seem quite stereotyped by today’s standards, but may have been considered sympathetic at the time. I’m not sure exactly how something like that should be presented these days.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/69 "2023-07-11T04:23:33Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’m not sure exactly how something like that should be presented these days.

Neither am I, but I sure wouldn’t worry about it.

I don’t tell other people what they should think, and I’d thank them not to bother me about such things.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/70 "2023-07-11T07:04:27Z")

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I’m watching ‘Flower Drum Song’ on TCM right now.

I’m very confused.

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I don’t tell other people what they should think, and I’d thank them not to bother me about such things.

They’re just trying to do a balancing act, providing classic TV which is going to rightly offend some people. Racism was a lot more acceptable back in the day. That doesn’t mean it was fine back then, it just meant the world was more screwed up back then.

They’re going to get angry messages whether they show it all or not, but a disclaimer is a compromise that hopefully mitigates the backlash.

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If you ever get a chance check out the movie _ **“Back to the Beach”** _. It features Gilligan as a sarcastic bartender. It’s hilarious. He bemoans the fact he was on an island for a long time with beautiful women but couldn’t touch them. And that he knew a guy that could take 2 coconut shells, bamboo and some string and make a nuclear reactor but couldn’t fix a 2 foot hole in a boat. Then the Skipper shows up and he’s like “Oh, no! Not you!”. Funny stuff.

> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> > [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> > Why didn’t the Professor concentrate on the S.S.Minnow? He invented lots of things that could of made it float.
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> Because he was stuck on an island with two beautiful women that wouldn’t have given him the time of day back in the real world. On the island though, his only competition was a surly skipper and his idiot first mate.

Just a reminder, if you Google any word or set of words followed by the word “porn” you will get a result. Try it with G.I. 😉

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Did Tina have the best post-_Gilligan_ career? We’ve already mentioned a few roles she had. The rest didn’t do much apart from revivals of their _GI_ characters.

Of course, “one recognizable leading role from a popular, multi-season TV show” is already an absolutely incredible career, by the standards of the vast majority of actors.

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You cannot avoid everything unless you live in a cave.  
> (Oh, lord I hope the cave peoples don’t hear that, they’re such neanderthals when angered)

> **[geico caveman series](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3qzfTCDG4%2F)**
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> ok i re-did the compilation. i even added the commercial i missed the first time around. video quality suffers when i upload to youtube...dont know why.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> They’re going to get angry messages whether they show it all or not, but a disclaimer is a compromise that hopefully mitigates the backlash.

**[VOICE OF ZERO MOSTEL]:** No kidding. 🥺

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Just a reminder, if you Google any word or set of words followed by the word “porn” you will get a result. Try it with G.I. 😉

Mmmmmmmmmm! 🥰

> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjTj2tnp9M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjTj2tnp9M)

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[Moderating]  
Let’s tone down the drooling over Mary Ann and Ginger, shall we? It’s unseemly.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> providing classic TV which is going to rightly offend some people. Racism was a lot more acceptable back in the day. That doesn’t mean it was fine back then, it just meant the world was more screwed up back then.

Not just racism. The sexism is cringe-worthy all through the 60s and 70s. Star Trek was terrible, despite its “enlightened future” (we don’t call people “charming negresses”, but publicly referring to a doctor and officer as a “walking freezer unit\*” raises not even an eyebrow, but does get agreement from the men.) And the entire 70s was a constant parade of “female- or lady-[doctor, lawyer, pilot, cop, bus driver, reporter, whatever]”. No woman could just be a doctor, no, she had to be a “lady doctor”. And there was always some neanderthal (can we say that?) ridiculing the idea that a “lady” can be a cop (or whatever). I mean, where they gonna keep their lipstick?

\*I guess in The FUTURE they don’t have freezers, they have freezer-units. Seems more futuristic, I guess.

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Star Trek was terrible, despite its “enlightened future” (we don’t call people “charming negresses”, but publicly referring to a doctor and officer as a “walking freezer unit\*” raises not even an eyebrow, but does get agreement from the men.)

No question. It was extremely progressive for the time, but only in relative terms.

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On the other hand, I remembered how much I love their little side bits, the day dreams, the fantasies.

Gilligan as super spy 014, as Dr Jeckyl, as a vampire, etc. How they fit all the other cast into it. Mary Ann as the “po’ ol’ Cockney flowa girl, that’s wut I am!”

(and in how the marathon edits the crap out of these. Fer instance, in the 014 daydream, they cut one whole character out)

I still get caught signing Hamlet when I hear Carmen (“neither a borrower, nor a lender be/do not forget, stay out of debt” “I ask to be…or not to be…”) That was pretty clever.

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