# Brain shakers from watching the Gilligan's Island marathon **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [July 10, 2023, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847 "2023-07-10T07:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/81 "2023-07-11T15:06:25Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Not just racism. The sexism is cringe-worthy all through the 60s and 70s. Star Trek was terrible, despite its “enlightened future” (we don’t call people “charming negresses”, - That was supposed to be the real Lincoln, acting as an enlightened gentleman of his day. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/82 "2023-07-11T15:24:41Z")
No, that’s not it… and it was much ,much older, i remember reading it on my old 396 with my amber monochrome monitor. Funny, it was also around the time I discovered The Straight Dope and the MB from the link included in the back of one of the books, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/83 "2023-07-11T17:33:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That was supposed to be the real Lincoln, acting as an enlightened gentleman of his day. Point taken. But I was thinking of the reaction by Uhura and company. They knew it was wrong to say that, but they weren’t hurt by “words”. Well, other than all the times pretty much everyone called Spock the most vile, hateful racist names. Which was a lot. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/84 "2023-07-11T17:36:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > No question. It was extremely progressive for the time, but only in relative terms. Whoopi Goldberg was about 10 when TOS was first aired and she has told many times how she ran, excited, to her mother, “Mama, one of us is on TV and she ain’t a maid!” Later, starting with Volume 3 of the [Loony Tunes Golden Collection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_Golden_Collection) she appears in an intro talking about how the cartoons are a product of their times and so have casual racism. “It isn’t right now and it wasn’t right then, but to pretend it never existed is to deny it _ever_ existed.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/85 "2023-07-11T17:43:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > No question. It was extremely progressive for the time, but only in relative terms. - And that’s the way being progressive will always be. No doubt Dolly Parton will someday be vilified for something as wasteful as _mailing_ books made of _paper_. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/86 "2023-07-11T17:45:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And that’s the way being progressive will always be. Absolutely. Someday, someone might look back on what we’re saying now, and be appalled. And I’m happy with that. We can and should always be better. I want my kids to be better than me, and their kids to be better than they are. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/87 "2023-07-11T17:59:38Z")
And Gilligan’s Island reruns will still be on. I hope other intelligent life in the Universe doesn’t see that and judge too harshly. 👽 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/88 "2023-07-11T18:05:25Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And Gilligan’s Island reruns will still be on. > > I hope other intelligent life in the Universe doesn’t see that and judge too harshly. - > 👽 They have Chuck Berry to listen to. That more than offsets G.I. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/89 "2023-07-11T18:26:14Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I’d thank them not to bother me about such things. So you get triggered by trigger warnings and want that respected. They shouldn’t be allowed to trigger you dammit. Or they should at least let you know it is going to be there so you can avoid it. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/90 "2023-07-11T18:27:33Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And Gilligan’s Island reruns will still be on. > > I hope other intelligent life in the Universe doesn’t see that and judge too harshly. We know that sometimes [aliens misinterpret the “historical documents” that we’ve beamed out to them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Quest), and base their entire societies on them. [![](https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2019/12/Thermians-Galaxy-Quest.jpg) ](https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2019/12/Thermians-Galaxy-Quest.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/91 "2023-07-11T18:32:13Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Is there anything you would put a disclaimer on; _Amos & Andy_, _Song of the South_? The biggest crime _Song of the South_ committed was being boring. The animated bits were fine, but everything else about that movie is dull, dull, dull. They should put a disclaimer for that. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/92 "2023-07-11T18:39:28Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And Gilligan’s Island reruns will still be on. > > I hope other intelligent life in the Universe doesn’t see that and judge too harshly. Those poor people. (see @kenobi_65 's post if you don’t get the reference) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/93 "2023-07-11T18:40:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They have Chuck Berry to listen to. That more than offsets G.I. Should we send them more Chuck Berry? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/94 "2023-07-11T18:42:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Should we send them more Chuck Berry? Absolutely. [![](https://www.elvisblog.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Send-More-Chuck-Berry.jpg) ](https://www.elvisblog.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Send-More-Chuck-Berry.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/95 "2023-07-11T18:42:33Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@running\_coach](#): > > > > They have Chuck Berry to listen to. That more than offsets G.I. > > Should we send them more Chuck Berry? - All that we have. \< removes and re-attaches thumb \> ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/96 "2023-07-11T19:25:19Z")
By the way, we do all know the story of why the theme song changed, right (from “and the rest” to “the Professor and Mary Ann”)? They were annoyed about being left out, and told Bob Denver. He in turn went to the producers, and pointed out that there was a clause in his contract that, as the star, he got to choose where he would be in the cast list… and told them that if they didn’t credit Wells’ and Johnson’s characters, that he wanted his name removed, too. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/97 "2023-07-11T20:30:09Z")
By George, I think you’ve got it! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/98 "2023-07-11T20:40:45Z")
Not “removed,” just shifted to the end. His contract stated he could have his name anywhere in the credits he wished. They had to redo the opening anyway because they were switching from B&W to color. From what I’ve read, everyone in the cast was annoyed because the Professor and Mary Ann were referred to as “the rest.” The excuse was that the production company would have had to pay them more if they were listed by name, but this became mute since the actors were getting pay raises anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847/99 "2023-07-11T21:25:22Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I also think they cut out a bunch of scenes. > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > when the South American dictator appears, he does tell people about them, but nobody believes him and they stage a counter-coup to get him out. The end of that episode was indeed a scene that was butchered in this Commercial Marathon. I wasted way too much time on that nonsense. ---
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A bit of Gilligan’s Island trivia; the first season credits show the US flag at half mast because this was shortly after the assasination of JFK. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brain-shakers-from-watching-the-gilligans-island-marathon/986847.md?page=6)