# BrainGlutton is suspended for incivility **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Tags:** suspension-banning\ **Created:** [November 15, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009 "2013-11-15T20:18:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/41 "2013-11-17T14:57:38Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Frankly, BG got really lucky that all he got for the second comment was a warning. > > If instead of appearing to approve of the burning of Catholic churches and the killing of priests and nuns… Can you link to this? > [@DrDeth](#): > > Yep. > > **Measure for Measure** : yeah, in his “zip” comment I am sure he was joking. But it was a pretty nasty sort of joke, leaning toward pedophilia, etc. However given his posting history, his comment about killing Catholics was at least heartfelt. Still waiting for you to substantiate your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/42 "2013-11-17T16:35:23Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can you link to this? I think \*\*Ibn Warraq \*\*means the following exchange, for which BG got a warning. > [@Are there 20th century examples of dictators who were good leaders and better than elected polticos?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-20th-century-examples-of-dictators-who-were-good-leaders-and-better-than-elected-polticos/672807/139): > > In that time churches were being burnt, priests and nuns were being killed … > [@Are there 20th century examples of dictators who were good leaders and better than elected polticos?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-there-20th-century-examples-of-dictators-who-were-good-leaders-and-better-than-elected-polticos/672807/143): > > So, there was no actual **down** side. Pretty sure he was joking here too. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/43 "2013-11-17T16:39:35Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Jonathon Chance spake: > "_Gotta admit, it’s pretty damn cheesy to appear to celebrate vast human rights abuses and - even in jest - treat them as a good thing. That appears to be almost trolling for reaction. Don’t do it again. "_ > > So, for instance you’d block Mel Brooks from coming here and posting _Springtime For Hitler_, right? No, actually you wouldn’t. Plenty of bad taste jokes pass without moderator action. It’s not a crime. \*Springtime \*is funny, and BG’s joke wasn’t, but that’s not a crime either. Mel Brooks would probably be told that posting _Springtime For Hitler_ is off-topic for Great Debates and, if he _did_ repost it in Cafe Society, could he possibly post just if bit of it due to the excessive length and provide a link to the rest. Got a more realistic and relevant example? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/44 "2013-11-17T16:45:43Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I think \*\*Ibn Warraq \*\*means the following exchange, for which BG got a warning. > > Pretty sure he was joking here too. Yes, that’s what I was referring to. And yes he was presumably making a joke, but jokes can be racist and can be a form of hate speech, particularly depending on the context. If we were discussing atrocities committed against Middle Eastern Jews and after someone mentioned the burning of Synagogues and murdering of Rabbis and let’s say Red Fury, then said “So, what’s wrong with that” does anyone doubt for two seconds he wouldn’t have gotten slapped hard and if he hadn’t lots of people would be screaming he should have been? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/45 "2013-11-17T18:49:29Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I think \*\*Ibn Warraq \*\*means the following exchange, for which BG got a warning. > > Pretty sure he was joking here too. OK. But note that he didn’t get an actual warning for that-- just a mod note. The other one was in the Pit, and it didn’t garner any moderator action at all. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/46 "2013-11-17T20:56:10Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > OK. But note that he didn’t get an actual warning for that-- just a mod note. That’s why several of us were saying on that one he got off quite lightly. Had he made such a joke about Jews, blacks, or possibly Muslims in a comparable context I suspect he’d have been lucky if all he received was a warning rather than being dinged for hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/47 "2013-11-17T22:24:08Z")
I’m glad it’s just a suspension, because I don’t get over to Elections very consistently. If I have to insert plugs for proportional representation in every remotely relevant thread all by myself, it will not be quite timely. More seriously, I like \*\*BG \*\*and am grateful to him for being such a presence on this board. Seems like a decent sort. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/48 "2013-11-19T13:47:53Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > That occurred to me. My take is that a) the Catholic church is a majority church in Spain Not another Spain-jacker! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009/49 "2013-11-19T21:20:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I read the whole thread, and didn’t see that. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Still waiting for you to substantiate your claim. “[ziiiiiiiip]” = unzipping trousers “So, what exactly were these filthy comments, anyway?” = I want to hear those filthy comments about a teenage girl so I can fantasize about them. It may have been intended as a joke, and was said in the Pit, but that’s still pretty tacky. “Pedophilia” is a mischaracterization - the girl was 17. But fantasizing about the inappropriate comments made to a victim of sexual abuse is right there. [QUOTE=Peter Morris] I’m not reading i9t as either personal insults or threadshitting. **Subterraneanus** called the thread “pretty fucking dumb” \*\*BG \*\*replied, (paraphrasing), only the first post is fucking dumb, the rest of the posts show some intelligence. It looks to me very like he’s defending the thread, not shitting it. And please explain how come you didn’t moderate \*\*Sub \*\*who used the phrase first. [/QUOTE] I have to agree with this. **BrainGlutton** didn’t threadshit and certainly didn’t insult the poster, he was discussing the Original _Post_, which is even more clear given that he quoted **Subterraneanus.** Whether or not **BrainGlutton** deserved a suspension for other comments that may or may not have been cited in the announcement, this incident seems unfairly aimed at him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-is-suspended-for-incivility/674009.md?page=2)