# BrainGlutton, wtf? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 28, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399 "2015-07-28T15:23:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/101 "2015-07-29T03:53:57Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > No, I’m totally on board with this pitting. That was disgusting. I can unequivocally say I don’t want to see anyone get raped to death on TV. Nope, not even Hitler. Look, say what you will about the guy, but Hitler wasn’t all bad. He did manage to kill Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/102 "2015-07-29T04:41:46Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I guess I must be thinking of somebody else. I have this vague recollection of a couple of instances of extremely cringey rape/Hitler/dead baby types of jokes totally out of nowhere. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > I have the same vague recollection. My memory is not reliable, though. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why do bad things happen to bad people? > > Seriously, **BG** does this sort of thing all the time. There’s a good chance he’s never had a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Again cite? > > BG may have a tendency to line up in lock step with the left, post links to long articles with very little commenting and over use rationalWiki as a source, but I honestly don’t recall any of this degree of invective coming from him, particularly out of the blue like this. Its not like he’s Der Trihs. > > If he does this all the time I must have somehow missed that and would like to know what I missed. Otherwise put up or shut up. > [@Miller](#): > > I don’t recall seeing rape jokes from him before, but I’ve gotten heartily sick of his “Lolz buttsecks!” jokes in threads relating to gay rights. Not as over-the-top offensive as the one that inspired this pitting, but still juvenile and off putting, especially taken in aggregate. He does tend to do this thing often, at least as far that I’ve noticed. Witness how, in a thread about Hurricane Sandy, in which many people died and thousands others were scared and the city was basically left in ruins, [he asks if NY smells better after its bath.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15645134&postcount=466) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/103 "2015-07-29T05:42:03Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I’m saying many people find hyperbole about rape uniquely offensive for the reason I gave. (Whether it’s “wrong” or right would depend on the validity of the underlying issue I mentioned, which is beyond the scope of this discussion.) No, it’s not. That’s stupid. You first have to establish your premise before any discussion can be had. You claim that we allow statements about torture that are worse than rape to be ignored. When asked to provide examples, whether in quotation form or just via memory, you claim you cannot do so. You assert that rape is somehow special, and go to all these lengths to explain it, but you have not established your claim has any validity. There just aren’t a whole lot of things that are worse than rape. At least, not in the realm of things that could actually realistically happen. And that’s the actual dividing line. Hyperbole in humor only works if it so clearly exaggerated that no one would think you really mean it. There are real people out there that could think exactly what BrainGlutton said. Furthermore, there is a line in humor, one that, if you cross it, you have to be sure to be funny, or you will be offensive. Wishing PTSD-level harm on someone crosses those lines. There’s nothing special about rape other than it being a particularly heinous act, one that could really happen–and apparently did actually happen–to the former Mrs. Trump. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/104 "2015-07-29T06:32:09Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > There are real people out there that could think exactly what BrainGlutton said. And those people are more likely to support a particular party, and cheer on The Donald - which is exactly what led me to believe BG was making (an admittedly bad) joke. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/105 "2015-07-29T07:12:42Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Even as sarcasm, it’s just waaaaaay out of bounds. Rape just isn’t something to joke about. Well, it is if it’s joking about/wishing on someone rape in prison. At least, that’s the impression I get from too many posters and postings on this board over the years. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/106 "2015-07-29T07:14:31Z")
He should have wished her death by snoo-snoo. Means the same but without the negative reaction. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/107 "2015-07-29T07:28:16Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > “Rape” has been a verb for as long as it’s been a noun, if not longer. > > I think you mean verb here. “Rape” as an adjective? > > Who? The pimps? In any case, you’re referring to using the term “pimp” as a verb, not an adjective. > In honor of this post, I’m going to verb a noun: gibberish. As in, “ **up\_the\_junction** is gibberishing again.” No need to get so rapey about your different cultural experiences. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/108 "2015-07-29T10:47:44Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > I think you mean verb here. “Rape” as an adjective? Rapeseed. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/109 "2015-07-29T11:02:08Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > I think you mean verb here. “Rape” as an adjective? Maybe thinking of expressions like “rape babies”? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/110 "2015-07-29T11:23:34Z")
Part of the problem for me was the context. A joke about Donald getting raped to death, while tasteless, at least contains humorous incongruity; nobody is likely to rape Donald Trump under any circumstances. But saying that we want someone raped to death whom we were just discussing as (allegedly) being the victim of an actual violent rape - there’s no incongruity there. It’s too close to reality to be funny. And even if the story isn’t true, it doesn’t make it funnier. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/111 "2015-07-29T12:15:13Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Maybe thinking of expressions like “rape babies”? Pretty sure the **up\_the\_junction** is referring to the phrase “rape culture,” which had been cited prior to that post. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/112 "2015-07-29T12:16:56Z")
Maybe he meant it in the sense of “abduction”. \*Rape! R-a-a-a-pe! Raa-aa-aa-pe! A pretty rape! A literary rape! You can get the rape emphatic. You can get the rape polite. You can get the rape with Indians: A very charming sight. You can get the rape on horseback; They’ll all say it’s new and gay. So you see the sort of rape Depends on what you pay. It depends on what you Pay.\* So why be stingy? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/113 "2015-07-29T12:33:33Z")
The adjective is not so uncommon among the yoof in my world: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rapey](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rapey) ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/114 "2015-07-29T12:59:39Z")
If you’re going to joke about rape, I insist you make it funny. Raping a famous celebrity to death on national TV is really not very funny, and implying that all Americans want this is even less so. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/115 "2015-07-29T13:11:26Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > No, it’s not. That’s stupid. You first have to establish your premise before any discussion can be had. You claim that we allow statements about torture that are worse than rape to be ignored. When asked to provide examples, whether in quotation form or just via memory, you claim you cannot do so. You assert that rape is somehow special, and go to all these lengths to explain it, but you have not established your claim has any validity. > > There just aren’t a whole lot of things that are worse than rape. At least, not in the realm of things that could actually realistically happen. And that’s the actual dividing line. The last part is important, I think. How often do people celebrate the idea of torture while talking about news of actual torture of a specific person? Certainly there’s black humor surrounding the idea generally, but anybody who relishes the kind of stuff that happened at Abu Ghraib is generally and rightly considered to be a sociopath, and anyone who asked “who gives a rat’s ass” about some westerner who was beheaded would be seen as almost an actual terrorist. It’s not like sometimes we just find out that some celebrity is claiming to have been waterboarded 5 years ago, and then we make jokes about how they deserved it. Meanwhile, rape jokes come up all the time in discussions of real life events. Like this one was. That’s what really makes this a weird hill for **FP** to choose to, um, make an ineffective argument on – this “raped to death” nonsense didn’t come up in any abstract impersonal sense that would make it a stretch to tie it to “actual rape.” **BrainGlutton** was talking about a specific person and a specific (allegation of) instance of rape. So the idea that there’s a liberal PC overreaction to the phrase on the grounds that somebody _might_ be suggesting “actual rape” is funny just doesn’t make any sense at all here. This is that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/116 "2015-07-29T14:33:52Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > That’s what really makes this a weird hill for **FP** to choose to, um, make an ineffective argument on – this “raped to death” nonsense didn’t come up in any abstract impersonal sense that would make it a stretch to tie it to “actual rape.” **BrainGlutton** was talking about a specific person and a specific (allegation of) instance of rape. Interesting thing is that while your lengthy post on the subject suggests you’re explaining some clever new idea, I actually suggested this possibility in my first post to this thread. Based on the comments and reactions it did not seem to me that this was the issue, as I noted. But you never know, which is why I brought it up at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/117 "2015-07-29T14:43:29Z")
Maybe this thread is actually the type of response he wanted. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/118 "2015-07-29T14:45:47Z")
[Or maybe…](http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3791) ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/119 "2015-07-29T15:59:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Pitting accepted, apologies to all offended. It was hyperbole, of course, but in very bad taste. Also dated – who even remembers Ivana any more? But back in the '80s she was almost as widely reviled and odious a figure as The Donald is now. What are you even talking about? Were you snorting the marijaunas every day in the ‘80s? Ivana was Americas’ Princess Diana in the '80s. She was practically the Eddie Murphy. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399/120 "2015-07-29T16:16:52Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Maybe this thread is actually the type of response he wanted. Yay because he’s just - brace your legs - he’s just a - hold onto the wall right now - … _glutton_ for punishment. Oh yeah. BOOM! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brainglutton-wtf/726399.md?page=7)