Thanks, I looked in a few articles and couldn’t find that.
The driver of the convertible is not responsible for the distance between them. The pick-up driver cut in front and suddenly jammed on the brakes.
They were both at fault for speeding, certainly – but nobody is in enough control of their vehicle 100% of the time to safely respond to some yahoo deliberately cutting in front of them and braking hard.
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nyctea scandiaca, like the above-linked article, most reporting of this incident includes the information that eyewitnesses say the pick-up swerved in front and braked, hard.
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Aw, crap, I can’t keep up, guppy
People brake suddenly for various reasons, not always clear to those following them. The Sebring driver should have been prepared to respond appropriately.
That was a bad simul-post for you , huh?
Are you missing all the posts where the truck swerved right in front of him and slammed on the breaks? I don’t think anyone could have stopped in such circumstances.
But the Sebring driver wasn’t following behind him. That’s what I find enfuriating about this thread.
They were beside each other, exchanging rude gestures, and the truck accelerated enough to get ahead and then swerved over and braked.
Not to say that the Sebring driver wasn’t driving recklessly, it’s clear that speeding and having your attention on a stupid fucking cock-fight is not model driving behaviour.
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This thread is moving too fast! LOOKOUT! Aaagh! (Didn’t realize it was a simulpost.) :o
That’s not clear from the article, which said “Near the Urbana exit, in an apparent attempt to have the last word, police said, the pickup driver slammed on his brakes when the Chrysler Sebring convertible was on the truck’s tail, prompting the convertible’s driver to swerve right.”
See post #42 for details, it was posted at the same time as yours. It clears up this issue.
You’re right. A Baltimore Sun article said, “1st Sgt. Russ Newell, a state police spokesman, said that after the exchange, the driver of the pickup truck pulled into the lane in front of the Sebring and hit the brakes.” That’s clearly wrong.
I was prepping the kids for school and happened to have the scanner on when the call went out. Initially it was for an accident, upgraded to rollover accident with 1 pinned, finally called Code F x 2 when the batallion chief got on the scene. After I got the kids on the bus I cleaned up quick and headed over for the aftermath.
The Chrysler picked a bad spot to swerve, as the area had an uphill embankment and no guard rail to stop the vehicle. It rolled up a steep bank and flipped onto the two occupants. Even with belts the occupants would be in trouble for the rollover.
I 270 is an overloaded road. I’ve noticed a ton of surveying recently but even a third lane is years away. It’s hilly and used by a lot of trucks who moan and complain about 4 wheelers but tend to hog the left lane as they grind gears up the hills. Much fun all the way around.
Today our folo up was the fact the couple had a dog with them, Roxy the rotweiller. Roxy ran away after the accident, and was found by some neighbors today and returned to relatives. An interesting read can be done in the comments section of this article about the family looking for the dog.
Animal control was amazed to dog survived and was apparently uninjured.
While we have established that it looks like the pickup driver swerved into the lane, even if he didn’t, to purposely brake for no reason other than to drive the car behind you off the road is wrong and reckless. Yes, in this hypothetical situation, the Sebring would be in the wrong for following too close. But so would the pickup driver. I’d split the fault at 75% Sebring, 25% truck.
I don’t get why you are harshing on the dead passenger.
Sure, she wasn’t wearning a seatbelt. And you know what,
SHE FUCKING DIED A HORRIBLE FUCKING DEATH!
Isn’t that good enough for you? No, you have to come in and shit on her for being too stupid to live.
She may have been egging her boyfriend on or pleading with him to stop, but no matter what she did she paid for it with her life. I don’t see any reason from these articles for you to pit her.
And they should have been wearing their damned seat belts. If they had been, they would not be dead.
Even without the benefit of 2gigch1’s post, I don’t see how you draw that conclusion. I am as mystified by people who don’t wear seatbelts as anyone (I’ve even started a thread on the topic), but your conclusion here seems pretty baseless.
Do we know this? A rollover in a convertible? Their odds certainly would have been better, but I’m not sure you can say that they would not have been dead. We don’t have crystal balls…at least I don’t.
Sebring people owned a rottie? That pretty much puts the finishing touches on the aggressive nutjob sterotype duddnit?
Point is, if you want to lessen your chances of dying a horrible death, wear your seat belt. Oh, and don’t get into a car with a machismo-fueled road rager.
All three had some blame in the situation, some more than others. But there is just no excuse for not wearing your seat belt. She could be alive right now if she had done that one simple act of personal responsibility. We are all in charge of our own personal safety.
Ok let me change my statement:
And they should have been wearing their damned seat belts. If they had been, the probability of them still being alive is much higher.
He’s flippin’ off angels, now.
[Grammar Advisory]The pedal you step on to slow down and/or piss someone off is the brakes. When you flip over, are ejected and die, is the breaks. We now return you to a Pit Thread, already in progress. [/Grammar Advisory]