# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2161 "2014-06-29T20:57:20Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > Did I just hear booing at the first half ending whistle? There has been a pretty consistent whistling/booing whenever the play slows down or the players are just lazily passing it back and forth. Maybe there are a lot of neutral Brazilian spectators? Greece has been more impressive so far. Everyone expected them to lock it up tight and not attack but it has been the opposite. They seem to dominate the possession and push it forward more. That being said, I still think Costa Rica are more dangerous overall and especially on the break. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2162 "2014-06-29T20:59:45Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > The alternative is to ignore the foul (most common) or set up some kind of bizarrely cramped and unsafe set piece with everyone jammed inside the box. > > The penalty rule is a good rule and if anything should be enforced more, especially in being given not just when a player goes down. > > Also offensive diving yellow cards should be given a lot more. Amen. Though it shouldn’t happen the threshold for calling a penalty in the area is higher. And I can’t say I blame the official. Would you want a whole country calling for your head and maybe be the reason a team is eliminated from the WC? And yes, we need more yellows for dives. Or players need to be fined after the game. People here though seem to hate that idea for some reason I don’t quite understand. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2163 "2014-06-29T20:59:59Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Meh. Seriously, meh to you and your condescending shtick. Yes, he’s dived, and now every time he’s involved in any kerfuffle, people remember that, regardless of what actually happens. A lot of us would prefer to see more open play and less diving. > [@](#): > > Because, you know, fuck the facts, when we can have opinions. But in the box, he’s one of the most dangerous players in this tournament, and he needs next to nothing to score. I entirely agree. But that makes it all the more irritating that he’s such a diver. > [@](#): > > As was said upthread, the Mexicans have no one to blame but themselves. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2164 "2014-06-29T21:00:10Z")
About penalties I think there should be a second penalty spot maybe 2-3 times further away from the goal which the referee can use for borderline cases. This penalty spot should also be used in shoot-outs making them a bit less of a lottery. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2165 "2014-06-29T21:09:45Z")
That was a yellow card just now!? He played the ball. He made contact with the ball. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2166 "2014-06-29T21:12:36Z")
The goalie didn’t even move… huh… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2167 "2014-06-29T21:13:10Z")
Los Ticos! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2168 "2014-06-29T21:13:24Z")
What an extremely odd goal! Snail-paced. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2169 "2014-06-29T21:14:27Z")
Good defending by Greece there. People diss them maybe somewhat rightly but they look better than the US did against Germany. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2170 "2014-06-29T21:14:29Z")
Sneakiest goal of the tournament! ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2171 "2014-06-29T21:14:33Z")
WTF Greece? ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2172 "2014-06-29T21:14:48Z")
Keeper and defenders just looked at it gently rolling by. Guess it didn’t look very threatening. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2173 "2014-06-29T21:15:37Z")
Yuck. Terrible goal. And somehow, this has awoken the Costa Ricans instead of the Greeks, who are falling apart. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2174 "2014-06-29T21:15:37Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > About penalties I think there should be a second penalty spot maybe 2-3 times further away from the goal which the referee can use for borderline cases. This penalty spot should also be used in shoot-outs making them a bit less of a lottery. Ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2175 "2014-06-29T21:20:43Z")
Yeah, that was a rather odd goal. Really just passed it into the net, past some Greek statues. And, as others have noted, scoring seems to have woken the Ticos up, and not the Greeks. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2176 "2014-06-29T21:21:47Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Yes, he’s dived, and now every time he’s involved in any kerfuffle, people remember that, regardless of what actually happens. Because, you know, fuck the facts, when we can have opinions. But you make it sound like he had one unfortunate incident years ago, and it is unfairly following him around. This is a player who, way back in 2007 apologized for diving. And not just for a single dive, but for a pattern of diving over the course of his career. Most of my soccer-watching is in the Premier League, and Robben was well-known as a diver during his time with Chelsea. Even a friend of mine, who bleeds Chelsea blue, conceded as much at the time. Then, four years later, Robben apologized for an exaggerated dive in a Bundesliga game. And now, in this very match, he took a huge dive barely 15 minutes before the match-winning penalty. And he has already conceded that he did it, and that it was wrong. Just how much slack should this guy get? I agree with you that each situation should be judged on its merits, but calling him a diver IS dealing with facts. He’s done it so many times that it’s practically the defining characteristic of his career. The fact that he’s openly apologized for it on (at least) three separate occasions over a period of seven years is pretty good evidence, no? ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2177 "2014-06-29T21:22:26Z")
What was the bench card for? ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2178 "2014-06-29T21:23:32Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > And yes, we need more yellows for dives. Or players need to be fined after the game. People here though seem to hate that idea for some reason I don’t quite understand. I agree thoroughly, especially because if we can manage to (effectively) crack down on diving, we can enforce the rest of the rules re: contact more effectively as well, and hopefully get more towards the beautiful football that’s so fun to watch. > [@Laggard](#): > > Good defending by Greece there. People diss them maybe somewhat rightly but they look better than the US did against Germany. … but I also I just want to point out that we get your skepticism of the US team at this point. You don’t need to get a post about how poor or overrated you think our side is on EVERY page of this thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2179 "2014-06-29T21:25:27Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > And, as others have noted, scoring seems to have woken the Ticos up, and not the Greeks. Works for me. I almost have never enjoyed Greece’s gameplay. ¡Vamanos los Ticos! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2180 "2014-06-29T21:27:13Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > What was the bench card for? I assume for excessive bitching about that handball in the box that wasn’t called against Greece. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=110)