# Brasil 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2181 "2014-06-29T21:27:28Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> I agree thoroughly, especially because if we can manage to (effectively) crack down on diving, we can enforce the rest of the rules re: contact more effectively as well, and hopefully get more towards the beautiful football that’s so fun to watch.
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> … but I also I just want to point ou:pt that we get your skepticism of the US team at this point. You don’t need to get a post about how poor or overrated you think our side is on EVERY page of this thread. 🙂

Sorry. 🙂

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2182 "2014-06-29T21:27:43Z")

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OK, instant out of the game. Too bad, harder for Costa Rica. Go Ticos!

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2183 "2014-06-29T21:28:21Z")

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Duarte sent off. That was a harsh call.  
Ticos have to pretend to be Greece now. Park the bus.  
On the bright side, if Greece scores one, and it goes to PK’s, maybe it’ll get interesting.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2184 "2014-06-29T21:28:46Z")

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They just showed a replay of the goal, and it seems like the Greek keeper got wrongfooted. His first move, at the moment of the strike, was to his right, but the ball did not come of the foot cleanly. I don’t think the ball went where the Costa Rican player intended; i think it was a bit of luck!

And now a red card. This will make it interesting.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2185 "2014-06-29T21:29:24Z")

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Stupid to give up that second yellow card. This will be very hard for Costa Rica.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2186 "2014-06-29T21:30:47Z")

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Every time I turn around there’s another yellow card.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2187 "2014-06-29T21:32:11Z")

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OTOH, since he’s out with the red for this one, should Costa Rica advance, Duarte is back card-free, right? Or is he sitting then the next one?

Is the ref just wanting to hand yellows to all the Ticos?

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2188 "2014-06-29T21:33:11Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> It isn’t a dive if you’ve actually been fouled. The defender clearly did go for the ball and catch Robben’s foot instead. A pretty mild penalty, but still.

If you go to ground when nothing has been done that could cause it then it is a dive. As I said, I don’t deny there was contact, but I do deny it was enough to bring him down. So in going to ground he is throwing himself at the ground, which is the dictionary definition of a dive.

Whether this falls under the FIFA laws of simulation is a completely different matter. But it still was a dive.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2189 "2014-06-29T21:33:43Z")

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He sits the next if they advance.

I think they’re just going to try to make the last 20 as ugly as possible - and we weren’t exactly starting off from pretty.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2190 "2014-06-29T21:33:49Z")

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Nevermind, yellows everywhere. Even on the bench.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2191 "2014-06-29T21:33:52Z")

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> [@KarlGrenze](#):
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> OTOH, since he’s out with the red for this one, should Costa Rica advance, Duarte is back card-free, right? Or is he sitting then the next one?

I believe he sits out the next game.

> [@KarlGrenze](#):
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> Is the ref just wanting to hand yellows to all the Ticos?

I thought the second yellow was pretty much justified. He definitely caught the Greek player after the ball had gone.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2192 "2014-06-29T21:35:36Z")

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All the yellows on the Ticos don’t help if/when they’re facing Netherlands next. ☹

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2193 "2014-06-29T21:36:37Z")

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Costa Rica have one player off, and three rolling around on the ground. It’s a massacre!

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2194 "2014-06-29T21:36:53Z")

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> [@Iggy](#):
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> Every time I turn around there’s another yellow card.

Yep, it’s gotten ugly since that non-called handball.

> [@KarlGrenze](#):
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> OTOH, since he’s out with the red for this one, should Costa Rica advance, Duarte is back card-free, right?

Only yellow cards reset.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2195 "2014-06-29T21:37:48Z")

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Come on, Costa Rica! Don’t let the Greeks get any ideas, like they did [against Germany in '72!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gJamguN04)

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2196 "2014-06-29T21:38:07Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I believe he sits out the next game.  
> I thought the second yellow was pretty much justified. He definitely caught the Greek player after the ball had gone.

Oh, I thought that one was justified. I’m just thinking of all the yellows and whistling and fouling in this game overall. Including the one for the bench.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2197 "2014-06-29T21:39:37Z")

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> [@KarlGrenze](#):
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> Oh, I thought that one was justified. I’m just thinking of all the yellows and whistling and fouling in this game overall. Including the one for the bench.

Yeah, it’s been a bit messy over the last 20 minutes or so.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2198 "2014-06-29T21:41:40Z")

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I think that players being substituted should be required to exit the field of play as rapidly as reasonably possible. Many of them move towards the sideline as slowly as humanly possible. It’s incredibly irritating.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2199 "2014-06-29T21:44:20Z")

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That free kick looked more like an extra point in the NFL. 🙂

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2200 "2014-06-29T21:44:51Z")

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This has been a fairly terrible match to watch. Even Costa Rica’s goal was about as dull of a goal as you can have.

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