# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2281 "2014-06-30T15:49:56Z")
So if it is a dive, which is against the rule, and a foul at the same time, what would be the punishment? ---
**Author:** ![by-tor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/by-tor/32/266_2.png) [@by-tor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/by-tor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2282 "2014-06-30T15:49:57Z")
I was impressed by the sportsmanship of the Mexican team. They never dived or flopped that I saw, unlike many teams in this WC. I will root for them more often in the future. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2283 "2014-06-30T15:53:21Z")
> [@by-tor](#): > > I was impressed by the sportsmanship of the Mexican team. They never dived or flopped that I saw, unlike many teams in this WC. I will root for them more often in the future. Some of them did fall. But then, the one who fell the hardest and stayed the longest on the grass also had an excuse. He fractured his leg. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2284 "2014-06-30T16:19:54Z")
That was a very close offside call on Nigeria there. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2285 "2014-06-30T16:24:52Z")
I’m at work, so I can only do the play by play from the FIFA website. ☹ And I may miss part of this game and the next due to work events. For tomorrow, I offered to work during Argentina’s game so that my coworker, the true Argentina fan, could take off work. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2286 "2014-06-30T16:25:18Z")
Wow, what got into Nigeria? Nice to see them finally play! They’re making a game of it. Also, may I hartily reccommend “men in blazers” for some great pre- and post match analysis. One ffine example here: [http://www.espnfc.com/video/men-in-blazers/103/video/1922846/men-in-blazers-boot-room-extramatchday-17](http://www.espnfc.com/video/men-in-blazers/103/video/1922846/men-in-blazers-boot-room-extramatchday-17) “bye. bye, Mexican Hodor” ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2287 "2014-06-30T17:27:03Z")
I guess Nigeria didn’t get the memo that they were supposed to just roll over and let France win. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2288 "2014-06-30T17:28:16Z")
holy cow - that was close! ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2289 "2014-06-30T17:30:22Z")
Despite that chance France have looked flat so far. They have been called the best team of the tournament so far and they certainly haven’t played like that in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2290 "2014-06-30T17:35:56Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Don’t forget that the advantage rule actually refers to the opposing players (the fouling player and his teammates) not the team who had a player who was fouled. > > IOW, the “advantage rule” compels a referee to refrain from whistling a foul when to do so would impart an advantage to the fouling team. Not vice versa. This a) doesn’t make any sense, as advantage is a zero-sum game, so the two amount to the same thing, and b) is incorrect, as the [Laws of the Game](http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06_2014_new--lawsofthegameweben_neutral.pdf) specifically mention the team being fouled against benefiting from an advantage: [QUOTE=FIFA] [The referee] allows play to continue when the team against which an offence has been committed will benefit from such an advantage and penalises the original offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2291 "2014-06-30T17:38:09Z")
That should be the game. To their credit France did raise their game in the last 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2292 "2014-06-30T17:38:36Z")
Goal for France. The Nigerian goalkeeper needed to get a better punch on that cross. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2293 "2014-06-30T17:39:36Z")
After steadily ramping up the pressure, France score off a header from Pogba! ETA Nigeria have been dangerous, best game of the tournament for them. But France are deservedly in the lead. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2294 "2014-06-30T17:42:56Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Goal for France. > > The Nigerian goalkeeper needed to get a better punch on that cross. +1. Even I know that if you’re going to come that far off your line on a corner, you’ve got to get a better touch on it than a tepid slap. And I haven’t even gone to keeper school. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2295 "2014-06-30T17:50:24Z")
Well, now it’s definitely over. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2296 "2014-06-30T17:50:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Goal for France. > > The Nigerian goalkeeper needed to get a better punch on that cross. To be fair, Enyeama has made quite a few excellent saves. In other news, Suarez has apologized publicly for biting. He still says that he was off balance, even though on video this is obviously a lie. And a second goal for France! A sad own goal. Nigeria appeared defeated even before that goal. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2297 "2014-06-30T17:54:33Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > To be fair, Enyeama has made quite a few excellent saves. Absolutely. That was really his only misstep, and he made some very nice saves. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2298 "2014-06-30T18:07:19Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > Despite that chance France have looked flat so far. They have been called the best team of the tournament so far and they certainly haven’t played like that in this game. Here’s why I favor France as the best side so far this tournament: 1. They play tactically sound, and for the most part, attractive football. Even when not everything is being well-executed individually, they remain calm, collected, and dangerous at any moment. 2. They have a large variety of attacking options. Their 10 goals this tournament have been scored by seven different players, by my count (excluding the Nigeria own goal). When they need to, they can score. 3. Their defense has been among the most solid this tournament. All of the other favorites have revealed significant shakiness defending. Not so France. 4. They have never seemed in any real danger of being upset. To be fair, Germany has faced more difficult opposition, but Ghana threatened them far more than Nigeria threatened France. Brazil and Argentina both have had scarier moments. Belgium were not especially solid against either Korea or Russia. The other side I’ve thoroughly enjoyed as a neutral is Colombia. ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2299 "2014-06-30T19:06:28Z")
Mats Hummels is out with the flu. Fullbacks are Mustafi and Howedes. Gaaaackkk. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2300 "2014-06-30T19:17:12Z")
Oops, screwed up France’s goal count. France’s 8 goals (excluding two own goals) were scored by six different players. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=116)