# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 120
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2381 "2014-07-01T18:07:18Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Much like with Robben, diving and and offence occurring are not mutually exclusive events. Messi clearly and deliberately charged someone for the offence of trying to get up off the floor. You don’t need to hit hard, the attempt is enough. Well, that’s an extremely disingenuous summary of the play. A foul had been called and the player was trying to slow the free kick. It was wrong to put his hands on him, but it was minor and certainly didn’t deserve a yellow. The flop merely underlined the fact that it wasn’t a serious collision. ETA: I am basing this on one replay I saw 30 minutes ago. I accept that I could be wrong. But I don’t have time to rewind right now. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2382 "2014-07-01T18:13:01Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Well, that’s an extremely disingenuous summary of the play. A foul had been called and the player was trying to slow the free kick. It was wrong to put his hands on him, but it was minor and certainly didn’t deserve a yellow. The flop merely underlined the fact that it wasn’t a serious collision. > > ETA: I am basing this on one replay I saw 30 minutes ago. I accept that I could be wrong. But I don’t have time to rewind right now. Any push on someone on the floor is deserving of a yellow. And push is putting mildly. ---
**Author:** ![by-tor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/by-tor/32/266_2.png) [@by-tor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/by-tor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2383 "2014-07-01T18:13:09Z")
Man, this is an ugly game. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2384 "2014-07-01T18:15:16Z")
> [@by-tor](#): > > Man, this is an ugly game. Yeah. I’m so glad I rushed home from work for it. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2385 "2014-07-01T18:16:15Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Any push on someone on the floor is deserving of a yellow. And push is putting mildly. He wasn’t on the floor, he was charging in front of Messi to slow the free kick. Push is putting it mildly. It was a nudge. But really, it was a minor play an hour ago. Just goes to show how awful and devoid of chances this game has been. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2386 "2014-07-01T18:17:41Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > He wasn’t on the floor, he was charging in front of Messi to slow the free kick. Push is putting it mildly. It was a nudge. > > But really, it was a minor play an hour ago. I’m beginning to think you didn’t see the incident or are thinking of a different one. He was on his hands and knees, getting up. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2387 "2014-07-01T18:22:15Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > I’m beginning to think you didn’t see the incident or are thinking of a different one. > > He was on his hands and knees, getting up. We’ll have to wait for the YouTube video. Yes, he was getting up directly into Messi to block the free kick. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2388 "2014-07-01T18:23:14Z")
I would like to boot both these teams out, and give Chile a special pass back into the competition. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2389 "2014-07-01T18:27:34Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I would like to boot both these teams out, and give Chile a special pass back into the competition. Chile? I’d prefer Algeria. Yes !!! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2390 "2014-07-01T18:28:42Z")
Stalemate ended. Engineered by Messi, of course. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2391 "2014-07-01T18:29:14Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Chile? I’d prefer Algeria. I’d be happy with that too. And once again a piece of Messi brilliance saves an otherwise-very-average Argentina. The finish was fine, but Messi’s lead-up made the goal. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2392 "2014-07-01T18:29:19Z")
And that is part of the reason Messi is the best player in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2393 "2014-07-01T18:29:56Z")
Finally. Very lucky if they can avoid penalty kicks. Argentina have a lot of problems. I still don’t fancy them getting anywhere near the finals. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2394 "2014-07-01T18:30:20Z")
The goalie got caught leaning the wrong way - that shot wasn’t particularly tucked away in that corner. Still, Messi + 10 soldiers on. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2395 "2014-07-01T18:31:53Z")
WOW, post. Also, a goalie bicycle kick. Just tell anyone who missed this game to watch the last five minutes and ignore the rest. ---
**Author:** ![Amara\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7993a0/32.png) [@Amara\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amara_1)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2396 "2014-07-01T18:33:27Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Chile? I’d prefer Algeria. > > Yes !!! I’d go with either of these. Boring game and Argentina scrapes by. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2397 "2014-07-01T18:34:50Z")
Thank fuck that’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2398 "2014-07-01T18:36:14Z")
The last five minutes of that game almost made up for the first 115. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2399 "2014-07-01T18:36:57Z")
> [@Kiros](#): > > WOW, post. Also, a goalie bicycle kick. Just tell anyone who missed this game to watch the last five minutes and ignore the rest. No kidding. These last five or so minutes suddenly exploded with action… He didn’t score the winning goal, but clearly Messi won this for Argentina, again. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2400 "2014-07-01T18:36:58Z")
> [@Kiros](#): > > Just tell anyone who missed this game to watch the last five minutes and ignore the rest. Yeah, i wish i’d turned the game on ten minutes ago. And it’s the first game of the knockout round that i can say that about. All the rest have been worth watching, and a few have been truly outstanding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=119) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=121)