# Brasil 2014
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 14
### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/261 "2014-06-13T16:09:05Z")
You’re not worth even a breath, so please stop trying to goad me into any further arguments with you, thanks.
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### Author:  [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/262 "2014-06-13T16:14:53Z")
Mexico is playing very well and I don’t think that was a correct offside call… Gotta make it up!!
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/263 "2014-06-13T16:15:31Z")
Indeed that goal should have been allowed.
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/264 "2014-06-13T16:26:26Z")
Cameroon now looking much more dangerous…
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/265 "2014-06-13T16:27:24Z")
Call me a stupid American if you wish, but I will never agree with the offsides rule. At least not without some sort of replay to actually get the call right.
I’m not sure what it says about me that my two biggest complaints about soccer are the way offsides is called and the diving. It’s really hard for me to watch soccer after watching the NHL playoffs and constantly finding myself wishing soccer was more like hockey
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/266 "2014-06-13T16:33:01Z")
> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#):
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> Now I remember why I stopped watching football.
> [@amanset](#):
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> Same here. Like an idiot I welcome ever major championship thinking it’ll be fun and then instantly get a reminder as to why international football is such a shit sport.
> [@asterion](#):
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> Call me a stupid American if you wish, but I will never agree with the offsides rule. At least not without some sort of replay to actually get the call right.
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> I’m not sure what it says about me that my two biggest complaints about soccer are the way offsides is called and the diving. It’s really hard for me to watch soccer after watching the NHL playoffs and constantly finding myself wishing soccer was more like hockey
Could we please place these kind of “I hate soccer” thread-shitting posts somewhere else? Thanks.
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### Author:  [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/267 "2014-06-13T16:33:57Z")
Another disallowed goal. Wasn’t it deflected by a Cameroon player? A more hectic game…
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### Author:  [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/268 "2014-06-13T16:34:56Z")
WTF is with the refereeing quality? That sucks really bad for Mexico and Santos.
I take it US fans are smiling. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/269 "2014-06-13T16:35:26Z")
It was deflected and the right call that time.
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### Author:  [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/270 "2014-06-13T16:35:52Z")
Asterion, thanks for sharing that. I live to read explanations of what’s wrong with football, offered by people who don’t like football. It’s really what the world cup is all about. Thank goodness, BTW, that hockey does not have diving or unsportsmanlike conduct, what a miracle sport!
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### Author:  [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/271 "2014-06-13T16:36:18Z")
> [@amanset](#):
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> Exhibit A: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiW0IPrv1Ro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiW0IPrv1Ro)
> Exhibit B: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B5C2U4UmO0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B5C2U4UmO0)
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> And in this game: the dive for the penalty and the clear elbowing - on at least two occasions - of a Croatian player in the head or neck.
I agree. Croatia had a forward break last night and a Brazilian player tried getting the Croatian in a headlock, somehow managing to stay on his feet, completely slowing down the team’s forward momentum.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/272 "2014-06-13T16:46:43Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#):
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> Asterion, thanks for sharing that. I live to read explanations of what’s wrong with football, offered by people who don’t like football. It’s really what the world cup is all about. Thank goodness, BTW, that hockey does not have diving or unsportsmanlike conduct, what a miracle sport!
Hey, look, I’m commenting while watching the Mexico-Cameroon game. All sports have rules I don’t really care for and I’m not the only one complaining about the quality of the officiating in these first two games.
Even if we don’t agree on how offside is called, can we at least agree that diving should be more harshly punished?
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/273 "2014-06-13T16:49:14Z")
I definitely would like to see diving punished more.
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### Author:  [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/274 "2014-06-13T16:53:05Z")
> [@asterion](#):
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> can we at least agree that diving should be more harshly punished?
Yes, and post-game if need be.
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### Author:  [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/275 "2014-06-13T16:55:27Z")
Actually, I love diving, it’s an essential part of the game and can be beautiful to watch.
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### Author:  [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/276 "2014-06-13T16:57:54Z")
> [@Knorf](#):
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> It was deflected and the right call that time.
But by a Cameroon player, it seems. How can a deflection off a defender during a corner count as offsides?
Next half cabrones!!
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/277 "2014-06-13T16:58:07Z")
Seeing replays yes Mexico should be up 2-0. I hope this refereeing settles down soon.
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### Author:  [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/278 "2014-06-13T17:19:27Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#):
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> Actually, I love diving, it’s an essential part of the game and can be beautiful to watch.
When you’re bored, I’d love for you to expound on this. I despise it. I think it’s ridiculous when a guy doesn’t even get touched, but rolls around on the ground like his spleen was removed with a railroad spike. It seems like an attempt to have the ref decide the game. To be fair, I don’t like it when American football players whine and cry for pass interference calls either. Just play the game as best you can and let them call it as correctly and fairly as they can. Diving goes against that. But… I am open minded and I would love to hear your perspective as it’s clearly much different than mine.
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/279 "2014-06-13T17:20:23Z")
Sarcasm may have been involved.
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/280 "2014-06-13T17:22:47Z")
I am a big fan of soccer, I record the Premier League games every week, so I am not a soccer hater. However, soccer is a low scoring game, which makes it very exciting, but the unfortunate side of it is that offside and penalty decisions are that much more critical to get right. I can see how it would be difficult to see past this. In other sports the refereeing can affect a game, of course, but I think soccer is more affected by the refs than probably any other sport.
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