# Brasil 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840 "2014-05-06T21:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 150
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2981 "2014-07-08T22:23:30Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > Is it fair to say that it wasn’t as close as 7-1? Yes, the Germans were at three quarter pace in the second half. I have to say I enjoyed that. I have an intense dislike for the Brazilian team, or rather our football media drooling over them. ---
**Author:** ![Donnerwetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Donnerwetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donnerwetter)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2982 "2014-07-08T22:28:03Z")
[Match Statistics](http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-rt-us-soccer-world-m61-bra-ger-stats-20140708,0,1562438.story) (quite surprising) Brazil Germany Goals scored 1 7 Total shots 18 14 Shots on target 13 12 Corners 7 5 Offsides 3 0 Fouls committed 11 14 Yellow cards 1 0 Red cards 0 0 Ball possession 51 pct 49 pct ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2983 "2014-07-08T22:32:14Z")
Obviously the Germans were way more efficient with their chances… And now a funny comment from the commentaries in the BBC website: “Dayboh Banjo: This is not the real game, this is Fifa pro for Playstation 5 being tested on live television. The guy playing with Brazil in this has fallen asleep on the controls.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2984 "2014-07-08T22:41:22Z")
Huffington Post had their best headline ever: WAXED! ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2985 "2014-07-08T23:00:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > My mistake. I’m sorta new to giving a shit about soccer. You’re not mistaken. No one gives a shit about the 3rd/4th place match. It’s probably the most irrelevant match in football. Brazil v Germany: I’ve watched football for over forty years and, just when I think I’ve seen everything… “Football… Bloody Hell…” ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2986 "2014-07-08T23:19:31Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > You’re not mistaken. No one gives a shit about the 3rd/4th place match. It’s probably the most irrelevant match in football. Speak for yourself, I’ve liked watching them. I liked the last cup’s Germany vs Uruguay game more than the Spain vs Netherlands. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2987 "2014-07-08T23:23:38Z")
But it says it all about 2010 that the third-place play-off was one of the most exciting games. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2988 "2014-07-08T23:34:02Z")
Bwahahahahahaha. Best soccer day ever. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2989 "2014-07-08T23:37:54Z")
So watching that with my German mate was kind of awesome. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2990 "2014-07-08T23:39:00Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > 3!!! Oh the joys of being amazed when it was only 3. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2991 "2014-07-08T23:40:26Z")
> [@Asympotically\_fat](#): > > Truly game over, no-one comes back from 4 down at this level, It was a bit of a joke here in the pub as Sweden did exactly that against Germany in qualifying. > **[World Cup qualifiers: Sweden fightback stuns Germany](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/19971379)** > > A round-up of Friday's World Cup qualifying matches as Sweden fight back from 4-0 down to draw with Germany and France score an injury-time equaliser against Spain. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2992 "2014-07-08T23:45:02Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > You’re not mistaken. No one gives a shit about the 3rd/4th place match. It’s probably the most irrelevant match in football. > > Brazil v Germany: I’ve watched football for over forty years and, just when I think I’ve seen everything… > > “Football… Bloody Hell…” > [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Speak for yourself, I’ve liked watching them. I liked the last cup’s Germany vs Uruguay game more than the Spain vs Netherlands. > [@Ximenean](#): > > But it says it all about 2010 that the third-place play-off was one of the most exciting games. The 2006 3rd/4th match was pretty good too. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2993 "2014-07-08T23:45:51Z")
And no doubt Brazil will be looking to save some face in this year’s third place match. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2994 "2014-07-08T23:49:04Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Speak for yourself, I’ve liked watching them. I liked the last cup’s Germany vs Uruguay game more than the Spain vs Netherlands. Ok, they can be entertaining matches, but that’s because they don’t matter. After three weeks and sixty two competitive matches, after four quarter finals and two semi finals in the previous week that totally captivate the nations involved they are an irrelevance. As the famous British commentator David Coleman once said (commentating on another sport) “Who cares who’s third?” ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2995 "2014-07-08T23:51:12Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > And no doubt Brazil will be looking to save some face in this year’s third place match. Will anyone remember it? The semi-final will be remembered for as long as football exists. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2996 "2014-07-08T23:54:54Z")
It’s 1:55 AM here. Tomorrow is a work day starting at 8:00 AM and I’m drunk. That’s after having watched the game with some friends and a case of beer and since then trying to comprehend over some more beers what happened tonight. Wow, I’ve been closely following every WC and EURO since 1976, and I’ve never seen a game like that. Unbelievable. A piece of sports history. But as good and effortlessly the Germans played, it was Brazil crumbling under the immense psychological pressure after the first goal which decided the game. They just stopped functioning. And don’t be fooled: We will face much, much stronger opposition in the final, Argentina or Holland won’t play so naively. The Cup’s not assigned yet. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2997 "2014-07-09T00:00:59Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > Yes, the Germans were at three quarter pace in the second half. > > I have to say I enjoyed that. I have an intense dislike for the Brazilian team, or rather our football media drooling over them. Yep, same here. I have had a strong dislike of them after their goalkeeper against France in 1986 introduced a twelve year old amanset to the concept of the professional foul. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6B5C2U4UmO0/hqdefault.jpg "Brazil vs France World Cup 1986 - Carlos Foul on Bellone") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B5C2U4UmO0) ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2998 "2014-07-09T00:04:32Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > It was a bit of a joke here in the pub as Sweden did exactly that against Germany in qualifying. > > [World Cup qualifiers: Sweden fightback stuns Germany - BBC Sport](http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/19971379) I had this match on my mind until Schurrle scored the 6-0. Then I finally started to relax. I agree with those who say it’s hard to take much from Germany’s performance in this. Were they good? Absolutely. But I bet they are as stunned as any of us by what they came up against. I mean, there was NO defense. They took advantage in clinical fashion and I’ve got serious Schadenfreude going on right now, but Argentina or Netherlands aren’t going to be this dire in the back (like that’s even possible), and actually have attacking threats. This ain’t done and dusted by any stretch. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/2999 "2014-07-09T00:04:58Z")
Interesting here. Ex-Brazil player Juninho says: > **[World Cup 2014: Brazil boss Luiz Felipe Scolari on 'worst day'](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/28222899)** > > Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari takes responsibility for the "catastrophic" 7-1 World Cup semi-final defeat by Germany. > [@](#): > > “We need to sit back, see what is wrong with Brazilian football. Especially in the academies, the way we teach them to play. A lot of change will need to come.” But not a week ago everyone was telling us that the Brazilian way, learning close control in the game of Futsal, was what made them so special. > **[World Cup 2014: Futsal - the game behind Brazil's superstars](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/27980859)** > > How a game played with a small, heavy ball on a tightly packed court bred the skills that made Brazil a footballing superpower. > [@](#): > > “Football owes futsal so much,” said Manuel Tobias, one of futsal’s greats and three-time world futsal player of the year, watching the youngsters in Fortaleza. "If we look at the Brazil team in this World Cup, around 10 players were registered with futsal clubs. Neymar, Willian, David Luiz, Daniel Alves, Luis Gustavo, Marcelo - they are a different type of player. What a difference a week makes. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840/3000 "2014-07-09T00:31:16Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > It’s 1:55 AM here. Tomorrow is a work day starting at 8:00 AM and I’m drunk. That’s after having watched the game with some friends and a case of beer and since then trying to comprehend over some more beers what happened tonight. Wow, I’ve been closely following every WC and EURO since 1976, and I’ve never seen a game like that. Unbelievable. A piece of sports history. > > But as good and effortlessly the Germans played, it was Brazil crumbling under the immense psychological pressure after the first goal which decided the game. They just stopped functioning. > > And don’t be fooled: We will face much, much stronger opposition in the final, Argentina or Holland won’t play so naively. The Cup’s not assigned yet. Enjoy it! It’s a long wait until Sunday,but I’ll be hosting a party. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=149) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brasil-2014/687840.md?page=151)